From the other end of the spectrum ideologically, but no more extreme than the likes of UAF, but the supporters of that outfit, which includes prominent MPs & 'celebs', and no doubt also include some bbc researchers, do not get the same condemnation.Royal24s wrote:I doubt that many normal people know who they are actually. I gather from these posts that they're some kind of right wing nutters, but you'd have to be very invested in impractical fringe politics to be familiar with groups like that.
They sound just as bonkers as socialists to me actually .
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It's not a matter of knowing who they are, it's very easy to like a post a friend has liked without looking at where it originated, that's how they work, make a meme stating the bloody obvious and collect those likes from the unsuspecting, I often comment with a lol on ultra left friends who fall for it time and time again.Ralph wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.indepe ... ent=safariRoyal24s wrote:I doubt that many normal people know who they are actually. I gather from these posts that they're some kind of right wing nutters, but you'd have to be very invested in impractical fringe politics to be familiar with groups like that.
They sound just as bonkers as socialists to me actually .
Or read the news. I'd heard of Britain First & I'm not a political insider. She's a producer on Question Time. Knowing who's who in the world of politics is her job.
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Question Time said she didn't understand 'the wider context' of Britain First & that's why she shared the post.warmleatherette wrote:It's not a matter of knowing who they are, it's very easy to like a post a friend has liked without looking at where it originated, that's how they work, make a meme stating the bloody obvious and collect those likes from the unsuspecting, I often comment with a lol on ultra left friends who fall for it time and time again.Ralph wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.indepe ... ent=safariRoyal24s wrote:I doubt that many normal people know who they are actually. I gather from these posts that they're some kind of right wing nutters, but you'd have to be very invested in impractical fringe politics to be familiar with groups like that.
They sound just as bonkers as socialists to me actually .
Or read the news. I'd heard of Britain First & I'm not a political insider. She's a producer on Question Time. Knowing who's who in the world of politics is her job.
She also used her facebook account to encourage EDL members to join the Question Time audience.
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Give me an example of a someone working for a BBC political programme while (accidentally) promoting violent left wing groups & I'll condemn it. Do you condemn this? Pretty shoddy isn't it?Roy Twing wrote:From the other end of the spectrum ideologically, but no more extreme than the likes of UAF, but the supporters of that outfit, which includes prominent MPs & 'celebs', and no doubt also include some bbc researchers, do not get the same condemnation.Royal24s wrote:I doubt that many normal people know who they are actually. I gather from these posts that they're some kind of right wing nutters, but you'd have to be very invested in impractical fringe politics to be familiar with groups like that.
They sound just as bonkers as socialists to me actually .
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Mmm that's what I would have said if I was stupid enough to share one of their posts, I don't see the problem with the EDL thing, I would have watched it and I suspect you would have as wellRalph wrote:Question Time said she didn't understand 'the wider context' of Britain First & that's why she shared the post.warmleatherette wrote:It's not a matter of knowing who they are, it's very easy to like a post a friend has liked without looking at where it originated, that's how they work, make a meme stating the bloody obvious and collect those likes from the unsuspecting, I often comment with a lol on ultra left friends who fall for it time and time again.Ralph wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.indepe ... ent=safariRoyal24s wrote:I doubt that many normal people know who they are actually. I gather from these posts that they're some kind of right wing nutters, but you'd have to be very invested in impractical fringe politics to be familiar with groups like that.
They sound just as bonkers as socialists to me actually .
Or read the news. I'd heard of Britain First & I'm not a political insider. She's a producer on Question Time. Knowing who's who in the world of politics is her job.
She also used her facebook account to encourage EDL members to join the Question Time audience.
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Ralph wrote:Give me an example of a someone working for a BBC political programme while (accidentally) promoting violent left wing groups & I'll condemn it. Do you condemn this? Pretty shoddy isn't it?Roy Twing wrote:From the other end of the spectrum ideologically, but no more extreme than the likes of UAF, but the supporters of that outfit, which includes prominent MPs & 'celebs', and no doubt also include some bbc researchers, do not get the same condemnation.Royal24s wrote:I doubt that many normal people know who they are actually. I gather from these posts that they're some kind of right wing nutters, but you'd have to be very invested in impractical fringe politics to be familiar with groups like that.
They sound just as bonkers as socialists to me actually .
I can give you a list of prominent MPs & 'celebs' actively promoting a violent left wing group, - will you condemn it?
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Is getting suckered into sharing a Britain first poppy post classed as "promoting right wing groups" or is it just being gullible?Ralph wrote:Give me an example of a someone working for a BBC political programme while (accidentally) promoting violent left wing groups & I'll condemn it. Do you condemn this? Pretty shoddy isn't it?Roy Twing wrote:From the other end of the spectrum ideologically, but no more extreme than the likes of UAF, but the supporters of that outfit, which includes prominent MPs & 'celebs', and no doubt also include some bbc researchers, do not get the same condemnation.Royal24s wrote:I doubt that many normal people know who they are actually. I gather from these posts that they're some kind of right wing nutters, but you'd have to be very invested in impractical fringe politics to be familiar with groups like that.
They sound just as bonkers as socialists to me actually .
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From the safety of my living room. High risk it'd kick off isn't there. If Question Time want to outflank The Jeremy Kyle Show this is the way to do it.warmleatherette wrote:Mmm that's what I would have said if I was stupid enough to share one of their posts, I don't see the problem with the EDL thing, I would have watched it and I suspect you would have as wellRalph wrote:Question Time said she didn't understand 'the wider context' of Britain First & that's why she shared the post.warmleatherette wrote:It's not a matter of knowing who they are, it's very easy to like a post a friend has liked without looking at where it originated, that's how they work, make a meme stating the bloody obvious and collect those likes from the unsuspecting, I often comment with a lol on ultra left friends who fall for it time and time again.Ralph wrote:https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.indepe ... ent=safariRoyal24s wrote:I doubt that many normal people know who they are actually. I gather from these posts that they're some kind of right wing nutters, but you'd have to be very invested in impractical fringe politics to be familiar with groups like that.
They sound just as bonkers as socialists to me actually .
Or read the news. I'd heard of Britain First & I'm not a political insider. She's a producer on Question Time. Knowing who's who in the world of politics is her job.
She also used her facebook account to encourage EDL members to join the Question Time audience.
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She shared more than one Britain First meme & invited EDL members to join a Question Time audience.warmleatherette wrote:Is getting suckered into sharing a Britain first poppy post classed as "promoting right wing groups" or is it just being gullible?Ralph wrote:Give me an example of a someone working for a BBC political programme while (accidentally) promoting violent left wing groups & I'll condemn it. Do you condemn this? Pretty shoddy isn't it?Roy Twing wrote:From the other end of the spectrum ideologically, but no more extreme than the likes of UAF, but the supporters of that outfit, which includes prominent MPs & 'celebs', and no doubt also include some bbc researchers, do not get the same condemnation.Royal24s wrote:I doubt that many normal people know who they are actually. I gather from these posts that they're some kind of right wing nutters, but you'd have to be very invested in impractical fringe politics to be familiar with groups like that.
They sound just as bonkers as socialists to me actually .
The most generous explanation is that she was promoting them unwittingly, isn't it?
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Can't help noticing you're shifting the ground & not answering my question Roy.Roy Twing wrote:Ralph wrote:Give me an example of a someone working for a BBC political programme while (accidentally) promoting violent left wing groups & I'll condemn it. Do you condemn this? Pretty shoddy isn't it?Roy Twing wrote:From the other end of the spectrum ideologically, but no more extreme than the likes of UAF, but the supporters of that outfit, which includes prominent MPs & 'celebs', and no doubt also include some bbc researchers, do not get the same condemnation.Royal24s wrote:I doubt that many normal people know who they are actually. I gather from these posts that they're some kind of right wing nutters, but you'd have to be very invested in impractical fringe politics to be familiar with groups like that.
They sound just as bonkers as socialists to me actually .
I can give you a list of prominent MPs & 'celebs' actively promoting a violent left wing group, - will you condemn it?
I don't think anyone should promote groups who use violence as a tactic. So if that's what they're doing consider it condemned.
What do you think about this BBC producer. Bit odd isn't it?
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IF the bbc employee is promoting an extremist group he or she should be dealt with accordingly. It goes without saying.Ralph wrote:Can't help noticing you're shifting the ground & not answering my question Roy.Roy Twing wrote:Ralph wrote:Give me an example of a someone working for a BBC political programme while (accidentally) promoting violent left wing groups & I'll condemn it. Do you condemn this? Pretty shoddy isn't it?Roy Twing wrote:From the other end of the spectrum ideologically, but no more extreme than the likes of UAF, but the supporters of that outfit, which includes prominent MPs & 'celebs', and no doubt also include some bbc researchers, do not get the same condemnation.Royal24s wrote:I doubt that many normal people know who they are actually. I gather from these posts that they're some kind of right wing nutters, but you'd have to be very invested in impractical fringe politics to be familiar with groups like that.
They sound just as bonkers as socialists to me actually .
I can give you a list of prominent MPs & 'celebs' actively promoting a violent left wing group, - will you condemn it?
I don't think anyone should promote groups who use violence as a tactic. So if that's what they're doing consider it condemned.
What do you think about this BBC producer. Bit odd isn't it?
My argument is against the usual dual standards, - I maintain that britain first is no more extrem than the UAF, yet the latter is supported by many mainstream 'names', and they are not attacked for their support.
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The most generous explanation is she's a typical just out of a media degree graduate that has connected parents who got her the job trying to be "edgy" and making a name for herself, but I can't be bothered to checkRalph wrote:She shared more than one Britain First meme & invited EDL members to join a Question Time audience.warmleatherette wrote:Is getting suckered into sharing a Britain first poppy post classed as "promoting right wing groups" or is it just being gullible?Ralph wrote:Give me an example of a someone working for a BBC political programme while (accidentally) promoting violent left wing groups & I'll condemn it. Do you condemn this? Pretty shoddy isn't it?Roy Twing wrote:From the other end of the spectrum ideologically, but no more extreme than the likes of UAF, but the supporters of that outfit, which includes prominent MPs & 'celebs', and no doubt also include some bbc researchers, do not get the same condemnation.Royal24s wrote:I doubt that many normal people know who they are actually. I gather from these posts that they're some kind of right wing nutters, but you'd have to be very invested in impractical fringe politics to be familiar with groups like that.
They sound just as bonkers as socialists to me actually .
The most generous explanation is that she was promoting them unwittingly, isn't it?
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She's not a celeb or an MP she's a BBC producer on Question Time. She should be studiously impartial.Roy Twing wrote:IF the bbc employee is promoting an extremist group he or she should be dealt with accordingly. It goes without saying.Ralph wrote:Can't help noticing you're shifting the ground & not answering my question Roy.Roy Twing wrote:Ralph wrote:Give me an example of a someone working for a BBC political programme while (accidentally) promoting violent left wing groups & I'll condemn it. Do you condemn this? Pretty shoddy isn't it?Roy Twing wrote:From the other end of the spectrum ideologically, but no more extreme than the likes of UAF, but the supporters of that outfit, which includes prominent MPs & 'celebs', and no doubt also include some bbc researchers, do not get the same condemnation.Royal24s wrote:I doubt that many normal people know who they are actually. I gather from these posts that they're some kind of right wing nutters, but you'd have to be very invested in impractical fringe politics to be familiar with groups like that.
They sound just as bonkers as socialists to me actually .
I can give you a list of prominent MPs & 'celebs' actively promoting a violent left wing group, - will you condemn it?
I don't think anyone should promote groups who use violence as a tactic. So if that's what they're doing consider it condemned.
What do you think about this BBC producer. Bit odd isn't it?
My argument is against the usual dual standards, - I maintain that britain first is no more extrem than the UAF, yet the latter is supported by many mainstream 'names', and they are not attacked for their support.
She shouldn't be backing/promoting/endorsing any political party, let alone violent ones that could be proscribed as terrorist organisations.
She also shouldn't be sending Facebook invitations to far right groups to join the Question Time audience.
It's a slightly worrying pattern of behaviour for someone who's supposed to be completely impartial? The dismissive response from the BBC is also worrying.
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I take it back, she's an old girl, hardcore racist
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Which political party is she backing/promoting/endorsing?
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Britain First. She says she shared the Britain First memes not knowing who they were. I'm not a mind reader so I'll take her word for that.Kowalski wrote:Which political party is she backing/promoting/endorsing?
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No idea, if you start judging people on what they've shared on their facebook page we're all up shit creekKowalski wrote:Which political party is she backing/promoting/endorsing?
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To be fair she shared the proud to wear a poppy and we support our troops posts, hardly extremist and I doubt many wouldRalph wrote:Britain First. She says she shared the Britain First memes not knowing who they were. I'm not a mind reader so I'll take her word for that.Kowalski wrote:Which political party is she backing/promoting/endorsing?
not agree with the sentiment which is why they post them.
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Britain First everybody...
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 21201.html
Using Lee Rigby to promote themselves after they've been asked to stop by his family.
Why nobody should share their Facebook memes, let alone staff on BBC political programmes.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 21201.html
Using Lee Rigby to promote themselves after they've been asked to stop by his family.
Why nobody should share their Facebook memes, let alone staff on BBC political programmes.
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It's Britain First that's the problem not the poppy or expressing support for our troops.warmleatherette wrote:To be fair she shared the proud to wear a poppy and we support our troops posts, hardly extremist and I doubt many wouldRalph wrote:Britain First. She says she shared the Britain First memes not knowing who they were. I'm not a mind reader so I'll take her word for that.Kowalski wrote:Which political party is she backing/promoting/endorsing?
not agree with the sentiment which is why they post them.
If she'd posted something from the British Legion there wouldn't be a problem.
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But they're not a political party. More of a right wing group.Ralph wrote:Britain First. She says she shared the Britain First memes not knowing who they were. I'm not a mind reader so I'll take her word for that.Kowalski wrote:Which political party is she backing/promoting/endorsing?
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That's a distinction without a difference isn't it. And they stand candidates in elections so...Kowalski wrote:But they're not a political party. More of a right wing group.Ralph wrote:Britain First. She says she shared the Britain First memes not knowing who they were. I'm not a mind reader so I'll take her word for that.Kowalski wrote:Which political party is she backing/promoting/endorsing?
The British Legion have asked Britain First to stop using the poppy to promote themselves, yet they still do it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/worl ... -them.html
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Ralph wrote:That's a distinction without a difference isn't it. And they stand candidates in elections so...Kowalski wrote:But they're not a political party. More of a right wing group.Ralph wrote:Britain First. She says she shared the Britain First memes not knowing who they were. I'm not a mind reader so I'll take her word for that.Kowalski wrote:Which political party is she backing/promoting/endorsing?
The British Legion have asked Britain First to stop using the poppy to promote themselves, yet they still do it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/worl ... -them.html
Don't you think that most if not all bbc employees have political views ralph?
Why are you like a dog with a bone on this barely newsworthy story?
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My apologies, I didn't realise they'd stood in elections.Ralph wrote:That's a distinction without a difference isn't it. And they stand candidates in elections so...Kowalski wrote:But they're not a political party. More of a right wing group.Ralph wrote:Britain First. She says she shared the Britain First memes not knowing who they were. I'm not a mind reader so I'll take her word for that.Kowalski wrote:Which political party is she backing/promoting/endorsing?
The British Legion have asked Britain First to stop using the poppy to promote themselves, yet they still do it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/worl ... -them.html
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