So equally the left and right thenZambo wrote:It's been fucked up on a regular basis since the 50s, apart from a couple of periods since.
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Probably not as old as you miserable bastardsRoy Twing wrote:The welfare state was indisputably the beginning of the sorry road, and the opening of the floodgates in 2004 was probably the point of no return, and in between there were innumerable common market/EEC/EU transitions, far from the least being the decision to adopt a policy of multiculturalism. And no doubt many other hand-wringing choices such as the ending of capital punishment or the abolishment of the 11-plus, and god knows what in between.PG30 wrote:Can I just ask, when did they start fucking the country up? Has it always been shit and have you always blamed the left, or is there a particular time frame when you think it started to go wrong?finchman wrote:Can we cut the sanctimonious crap lads,the lefties and the metro-elite have fucked up the country so its time for a change.
Take your pick.
I don't often like to pry, but I'm guessing you are pretty young.
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If you want to judge a couple of periods and 60 odd years as equal because it makes it sound that both sides of the political spectrum are to blame for this shit then be my guest.PG30 wrote:So equally the left and right thenZambo wrote:It's been fucked up on a regular basis since the 50s, apart from a couple of periods since.
Don't always believe what you think, because sometimes its' a load of shite
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You're not saddled with the baggage of utter ambivalence of the political system in this country nor do you have an irrational opinion. Lucky you PG.PG30 wrote:Probably not as old as you miserable bastardsRoy Twing wrote:The welfare state was indisputably the beginning of the sorry road, and the opening of the floodgates in 2004 was probably the point of no return, and in between there were innumerable common market/EEC/EU transitions, far from the least being the decision to adopt a policy of multiculturalism. And no doubt many other hand-wringing choices such as the ending of capital punishment or the abolishment of the 11-plus, and god knows what in between.PG30 wrote:Can I just ask, when did they start fucking the country up? Has it always been shit and have you always blamed the left, or is there a particular time frame when you think it started to go wrong?finchman wrote:Can we cut the sanctimonious crap lads,the lefties and the metro-elite have fucked up the country so its time for a change.
Take your pick.
I don't often like to pry, but I'm guessing you are pretty young.
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Tell you what sonny jim - I'm anything but miserable these days - the schadenfreude is very enjoyable.PG30 wrote:Probably not as old as you miserable bastardsRoy Twing wrote:The welfare state was indisputably the beginning of the sorry road, and the opening of the floodgates in 2004 was probably the point of no return, and in between there were innumerable common market/EEC/EU transitions, far from the least being the decision to adopt a policy of multiculturalism. And no doubt many other hand-wringing choices such as the ending of capital punishment or the abolishment of the 11-plus, and god knows what in between.PG30 wrote:Can I just ask, when did they start fucking the country up? Has it always been shit and have you always blamed the left, or is there a particular time frame when you think it started to go wrong?finchman wrote:Can we cut the sanctimonious crap lads,the lefties and the metro-elite have fucked up the country so its time for a change.
Take your pick.
I don't often like to pry, but I'm guessing you are pretty young.
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But you should have picked up a bit of commonsense at your age.
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You mean the establishment '2 cheeks of the same backside' liberal elite parties of course.PG30 wrote:So equally the left and right thenZambo wrote:It's been fucked up on a regular basis since the 50s, apart from a couple of periods since.
It was anything but right (in any definition of the word).
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There has ever been a truly left wing government in the UK apart from Attlee's and Wilson's first one (the latter to a lesser degree).
What we see now is a reaction to global events like the 2008 crash and war in the middle east/ north africa. The racist fanatical right is playing on people's genuine fear to pedal out their ulterior motives. The suppression of left wing voices by the establishment has left only the hard right as providing a vocal and robust alternative.
The arrogance of the establishment in both its foreign and domestic policies has got us here. A desperate and frightened people are now ripe for exploitation by fraudsters like Drumpf and fanatics like Le Pen.
What we see now is a reaction to global events like the 2008 crash and war in the middle east/ north africa. The racist fanatical right is playing on people's genuine fear to pedal out their ulterior motives. The suppression of left wing voices by the establishment has left only the hard right as providing a vocal and robust alternative.
The arrogance of the establishment in both its foreign and domestic policies has got us here. A desperate and frightened people are now ripe for exploitation by fraudsters like Drumpf and fanatics like Le Pen.
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Give me 15-20 yearskancutlawns wrote:You're not saddled with the baggage of utter ambivalence of the political system in this country nor do you have an irrational opinion. Lucky you PG.PG30 wrote:Probably not as old as you miserable bastardsRoy Twing wrote:The welfare state was indisputably the beginning of the sorry road, and the opening of the floodgates in 2004 was probably the point of no return, and in between there were innumerable common market/EEC/EU transitions, far from the least being the decision to adopt a policy of multiculturalism. And no doubt many other hand-wringing choices such as the ending of capital punishment or the abolishment of the 11-plus, and god knows what in between.PG30 wrote:Can I just ask, when did they start fucking the country up? Has it always been shit and have you always blamed the left, or is there a particular time frame when you think it started to go wrong?finchman wrote:Can we cut the sanctimonious crap lads,the lefties and the metro-elite have fucked up the country so its time for a change.
Take your pick.
I don't often like to pry, but I'm guessing you are pretty young.
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Sure by then I'll be going through a midlife crisis with the fear that life has passed me by. I'll do everything I can to ruin it for the next couple of generations in a last gasp attempt to feel important and remain relevant
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The whining I can hear must be from somewhere else then.The Tick wrote:The suppression of left wing voices by the estabishment
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What like the 60's 70's 80's 90's and 2k's?Zambo wrote:It's been fucked up on a regular basis since the 50s, apart from a couple of periods since.
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Indeed, that's why Corbyn and his London-centric cronies are unelectable. They are totally out of touch and their open door policy is disastrous for the average low paid worker.m4rkb wrote:the left started fucking the country up when they moved away from protecting working class employment rights and started concentrating on minorities and equality for everyone bar their core support.
Admittedly the climate at the time could raise further accusations of fucking the country up as they tried to bring it down with constant strikes. But at least the average man was still top of their agenda. Now simply, he's not. It's mass immigration, and a whole raft of stupidity and British self hating bollocks.
They also tend to live in a dream world of ideals totally ignoring reality.
There's obviously a lot more but that'll do for starters.
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Yvette Cooper's performance in last week's Question Time was like a stroppy teenager with Daddy Issues, and Chuka Umuna's disgusting
interview on LBC "Globalisation is Happening..get used to it " is both examples of why this degenerate vile band of thieves should
never achieve any power in our lifetime. Why their constituents cannot see what slimeballs they are is beyond me.
interview on LBC "Globalisation is Happening..get used to it " is both examples of why this degenerate vile band of thieves should
never achieve any power in our lifetime. Why their constituents cannot see what slimeballs they are is beyond me.
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Ahhh....because the left wing are a bunch of freedom hating socialist twats...long story short.Shedboy wrote:What's with all the leftie, liberal protesters complaining about someone being given the right to air their views under the freedom of speech banner which they proudly claim to defend?
Surely the best thing for them to do is use the same right to counter her arguments instead of depriving her of a cherished freedom. Oh, wait a minute; it doesn't suit their agenda.
They hate freedom. Only freedom they like is when it suits them. Cake and eating it type in a nutshell the left wingers.
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Francois Hollande not seeking re-election next year.
Bit of a humiliation to be the first president under the Fifth Republic to decide he's not good enough to run for a second term.
Bit of a humiliation to be the first president under the Fifth Republic to decide he's not good enough to run for a second term.
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I know nothing about French politics but it's a bit of a worry that the French are flirting with the idea of electing an authentic fascist?Steve Hunt wrote:Francois Hollande not seeking re-election next year.
Bit of a humiliation to be the first president under the Fifth Republic to decide he's not good enough to run for a second term.
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If you're supporting a (genuine) fascist because 'the left' hate freedom you need to turn your brain off & on again.Rossco wrote:Ahhh....because the left wing are a bunch of freedom hating socialist twats...long story short.Shedboy wrote:What's with all the leftie, liberal protesters complaining about someone being given the right to air their views under the freedom of speech banner which they proudly claim to defend?
Surely the best thing for them to do is use the same right to counter her arguments instead of depriving her of a cherished freedom. Oh, wait a minute; it doesn't suit their agenda.
They hate freedom. Only freedom they like is when it suits them. Cake and eating it type in a nutshell the left wingers.
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She won't get in, RalphRalph wrote:I know nothing about French politics but it's a bit of a worry that the French are flirting with the idea of electing an authentic fascist?Steve Hunt wrote:Francois Hollande not seeking re-election next year.
Bit of a humiliation to be the first president under the Fifth Republic to decide he's not good enough to run for a second term.
Francois Fillon will win it. Whilst not advocating Frexit, Fillon is currently a staunch Eurosceptic - though no doubt the Establishment will "get to him" should he win.
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Brexit Ministers floats the idea of relaxing immigration controls after the U.K. leaves the EU.
http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-secret ... s-10679663
http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-secret ... s-10679663
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Shouldn't this be in this thread, Ralph?:Ralph wrote:Brexit Ministers floats the idea of relaxing immigration controls after the U.K. leaves the EU.
http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-secret ... s-10679663
https://www.talkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=24360
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Yep.Steve Hunt wrote:Shouldn't this be in this thread, Ralph?:Ralph wrote:Brexit Ministers floats the idea of relaxing immigration controls after the U.K. leaves the EU.
http://news.sky.com/story/brexit-secret ... s-10679663
https://www.talkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=24360
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You should have seen it ten years agoPG30 wrote:This forum is starting to get a bit worrying of late
Anyhow there isnt much point in a forum where everyone is a yogurt knitting SJW
is there ? or for that matter a card carrying Nazi
I heard gods fast but I'd have to go up against him before I believe it
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The latter seems to be the norm to be fair.possibly even a prerequisite.m4 colin wrote:You should have seen it ten years agoPG30 wrote:This forum is starting to get a bit worrying of late
Anyhow there isnt much point in a forum where everyone is a yogurt knitting SJW
is there ? or for that matter a card carrying Nazi
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are you even surprised?Ralph wrote:I know nothing about French politics but it's a bit of a worry that the French are flirting with the idea of electing an authentic fascist?Steve Hunt wrote:Francois Hollande not seeking re-election next year.
Bit of a humiliation to be the first president under the Fifth Republic to decide he's not good enough to run for a second term.
there is only so much a nation can take
imho it's too late
france can never be france again, too diluted
what the controllers, libtards, champagnes and sjw's can't abide is that the uprising is self induced, and is not the far right, it's everyday people sick of cunts ramming shit down their throats
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The French are nasty cunts anyway who had their tummies tickled and rolled over for the Nazis in the Second World War. I suppose the libtards and bogus Syrian asylum seekers were to blame for that too weren't they?
Please don't hoover up all the bollocks for yourself. Leave some for others.