The fall of UKIP - part 1

[the rotary club]

The "free market" requires not just access to sell in all markets, but also free movement of labour. Migration into member countries from outside the EU is determined by the countries themselves.

Then why is the EU demanding that the UK take a quoted share of North Africans . Is the EU superstate laying down the Continental Law over sovereign nations again?
Also the free market also legislates that rapists, murderers and paedophiles can freely come from impoverished shitholes like Romania and Albania
and suck the teat of Mother England for all the milk and honey until she is a dried-up husk reduced to Third World status.

1. No
2. The state makes a 'profit' on EU migrants.

Was there anything else?

[Roy Twing]

This might prove to be a naïve question but what the hell.
I think even the most blinkered would agree that mass immigration from outside the EU is far from being a net economic benefit to the UK (leaving aside all of the other lovely ‘benefits’) seeing as it is backed up by most of the tame establishment sources (ie the recent UCL report).
However, these same tame sources want us to believe that migration from inside the EU is a net benefit, - what I’ve not quite managed to square though, is whether the ‘profit’ from such migration is actually from the new accession countries, or from the old established two way migration between the UK and the rest of western/southern Europe. And secondly, whether any net benefit from EU migration is greater or lesser than from native british net benefit?

[the rotary club]

Is there any 'native british net benefit?' If so can you demonstrate it?

I don't think the UCL report for example contained such an assertion.

[Roy Twing]

Is there any 'native british net benefit?' If so can you demonstrate it?

I don't think the UCL report for example contained such an assertion.

1. GDP per capita as a starting point, perhaps?

2. Yes it did

[paolo]

rotary asking questions?

i thought you were not allowed to ask questions in d and d.....or is that only when the answers don't suit your agenda?

[the rotary club]

I answered your question earlier.

[the rotary club]

Is there any 'native british net benefit?' If so can you demonstrate it?

I don't think the UCL report for example contained such an assertion.

1. GDP per capita as a starting point, perhaps?

2. Yes it did

1. Native British GDP what on earth are you on about?*

2. I don't think it did.

* rhetorical paolo rhetorical.

[chelseachelsea]

Ukip officials wanted to get their "snouts in the trough" at Parliament, but "I said NO", says Carswell as he refuses £650,000 to run his office

http://www.clactonandfrintongazette.co. ... ref=twtrec

Carswell v UKIP continues, I do like a far right civil war me.

As Ukip has only 1 MP, I'd hardly think it was worth being interested in. Now the civil war in the Labour Party, that is were all the fun is.

[the rotary club]

Yes a lack of MPs but there's plenty of others to pile in Farage, Flynn, Nuttal and whole host of other fucknugget MEPs!

I'm not a sure a leadership election counts as civil war, of course they are always a bit bitchy in whatever party.

Fingers crossed the up coming EU referendum will bring out the worst in the divided Tories and they'll go to war.

[paolo]

imagine if farage was in the house of commons, a thorn in the side of sll parties

suits them all him not being there

[Lord Notin Kwestion]

imagine if farage was in the house of commons, a thorn in the side of sll parties

suits them all him not being there

Some may say you're a dreamer Paolo
But you're not the only one.

[paolo]

imagine if farage was in the house of commons, a thorn in the side of sll parties

suits them all him not being there

Some may say you're a dreamer Paolo
But you're not the only one.

just imagine

[Lord Notin Kwestion]

imagine if farage was in the house of commons, a thorn in the side of sll parties

suits them all him not being there

Some may say you're a dreamer Paolo
But you're not the only one.

just imagine

Another shill at the gangbang with his nose in the trough.

What a difference it would make.

[AlcoholBrazil]

The state makes a 'profit' on EU migrants.

Was there anything else?

only this,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l#comments

[ccreds]

Would UKIP have won in Clacton if they didn't have Carswell?

[subsub]

Heh, all going wrong for Ukip:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... aggressive

Nigel Farage has been described by his own general election campaign director as a “snarling, thin-skinned, aggressive” man who is turning Ukip into a personality cult.

Patrick O’Flynn, Ukip MEP for the East of England, made his devastating comments in an interview with the Times.

The blunt statements appear to be the latest sign of Ukip’s descent into civil war following Farage’s failure to win the parliamentary seat of South Thanet, and his U-turn on standing down as party leader.

O’Flynn also hit out at Farage’s “inexperienced” aides, who he said needed to be cleared out.

He called for a more consultative and consensual style of leadership to avoid the appearance of the party being an “absolute monarchy”.

[the rotary club]

I do like a far right civil war me.

[Holden Mcgroyne]

All the losers turning on each other is very amusing at the moment.

[Lou Grant]

Their one MP is planning to defect and there are now rumours Farage is going to start a new party.

[the rotary club]

All the losers turning on each other is very amusing at the moment.

But for proper acrimony you can't beat your lot on Europe.

What do you reckon a brief honeymoon period with battle commencing after the summer recess.

[Holden Mcgroyne]

All the losers turning on each other is very amusing at the moment.

But for proper acrimony you can't beat your lot on Europe.

What do you reckon a brief honeymoon period with battle commencing after the summer recess.

Quite possibly,just let me wallow in the wonderful schadenfreude for the moment.

[the rotary club]

[AlcoholBrazil]

Their one MP is planning to defect and there are now rumours Farage is going to start a new party.

No2EU ??? perhaps .

[the rotary club]

The state makes a 'profit' on EU migrants.

Was there anything else?

only this,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l#comments

It's bollocks, it's in the Daily Heil.

What Carney and the Bank didn't say (and the Mail's story strongly suggests) is that migrant workers bring down the salaries of existing British workers.

http://uk.businessinsider.com/mark-carn ... 015-5?r=US

Next.

[paolo]

do you think that an expanding workforce with a finite number of jobs affects the wages of the workforce in a negative way?