m4rkb wrote:I think you've made two valid point there Robert.
Personally, I do not have a problem with people being gay. It's an obvious trait of humanity and even hardline muslim countries have many gay people within them who must be crying out for more liberal laws which stop them from being persecuted based on a religious text.
The sad thing is , it's been taken over by a political movement which feels it needs to flex its muscles by flaunting it in the faces of people who have traditional values. This has seen it shift from behind closed doors to thrust in your face- right up to the point of goading people to make statements those wishing to politicise it can then take advantage of, such as asking Christian bakeries to bake cakes endorsing gay marriage when they know full wll they are likely to refuse on religious grounds.
If you were to hold the same recent Muslim survey amongst traditional thinking Brits, I'd largely expect a similar result, not because people are anti gay, but because they can spot the main motivation is being led by gay activists looking to cause outrage just so they can shout homophobia later.
Homosexuality is rife within the Muslim community. Even the Saudi Princes who like a bit of cock come to London to get it , well away from the stoning any normal citizen from the same country would surely get were it not for the FACT MI5/6 now operates as a secret gay shagging club blessed with diplomatic immunity.
The problems we face from Islam IMO are not centred around being gay, even though gay people can expect a lot more persecution than they are used to at the moment. It will come from a rigid way of life that systematically outbreeds the host nation. I have to compliment them in the way they never fail to supplant whatever host nation they enter into with pure religious monothought.
However Russia or Iran deals with those that promote homosexuality and hence try and corrupt and poison their children - thats their choice. The criminals know the law and trying to promote it even with foriegn support and funding is punished.
After world war one... the Zionist, Magnus Hirschfeld tried to poison Germanys children and pollute German society with his promotion of homosexuality as the norm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus_Hirschfeld
His aim was to destroy traditional German society
Russia and Iran obviously won't tolerate homosexual activists
Unfortunately there is a campaign within the educational system to try and brainwash children into thinking homosexuality is cool and fun so then they could experiment with it
Example:
'Promote gay relationships as positive in school,' teachers say
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/ed ... s-say.html
And when Christians raise their stance against this cultural marxism destroying our children then they are subjected to all sorts of abuse and backlash by the media and the gay rights lot and their supporters like in the bakery case as well devon/cornwall B&B case
There are multiple factors when it comes to muslims and one of it is immigration and our very cosy links as well as propping up and support of the wahabbis in Saudi and our establishments funding and support of jihadi groups against secular sovreign states of Libya and Iraq