How on Earth would they benefit from doing such a thing?m4rkb wrote:But despite the fact they are broadly all the same entity, enough differences still exist to spot left wing and right wing motives. New labour wanted to flood us with immigrants and rub our noses in it.Roy Twing wrote:Agreed.Royal24s wrote:Or perhaps we should scrap the whole tribal thing because it obviously achieves nothing but a lot of hot air.
Isn't it time to elect some representatives who are capable of , and willing to actually DO something constructive ?
Seems to me that corbyn's labour represents the true labour mindset, - the PLP hijacked the party over the years and just became another cheek of the mainstream backside.
The PLP should admit that it is basically a left of centre liberal outfit and ditch the labour misnomer, - maybe join forces with farron's bunch, and call themselves new libdems.
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Labour have garnered less than 10K votes in the 3 post-Brexit by-elections.
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Yes, it's baffling isn't it!?Steve Hunt wrote:Labour have garnered less than 10K votes in the 3 post-Brexit by-elections.
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The LibDems are gaining ground though. Labour's problems are more about Corbyn than Brexit. I honestly don't know what Labour's position on Brexit is. Seems to shift daily. Poor leadership. The longer they persevere with Corbyn the worse it'll get.Steve Hunt wrote:Labour have garnered less than 10K votes in the 3 post-Brexit by-elections.
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You can only live in the world you know.The rest is just wishful thinking or paranoia.
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BBC were creaming themselves after the Richmond by election.Roddy wrote:4th again
Considerably quieter today following the Tory's & UKIP securing 70% of the Sleaford vote.
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A safe Tory seat staying Tory isn't much of a story. Ukip's share of the vote went down. The only part of the result that's interesting is just how badly Labour did.Steve Hunt wrote:BBC were creaming themselves after the Richmond by election.Roddy wrote:4th again
Considerably quieter today following the Tory's & UKIP securing 70% of the Sleaford vote.
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They where making out the Richmond victory was a fight back for the remain campaign !!Steve Hunt wrote:BBC were creaming themselves after the Richmond by election.Roddy wrote:4th again
Considerably quieter today following the Tory's & UKIP securing 70% of the Sleaford vote.
They will be crying into their lattes.
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But Richmond voted heavily in favour of Remain in the referendum. Surely them returning a Remain LibDem candidate isn't much of a story?Ralph wrote:A safe Tory seat staying Tory isn't much of a story. Ukip's share of the vote went down. The only part of the result that's interesting is just how badly Labour did.Steve Hunt wrote:BBC were creaming themselves after the Richmond by election.Roddy wrote:4th again
Considerably quieter today following the Tory's & UKIP securing 70% of the Sleaford vote.
If it is, then equal coverage might be expected to a strong "Out" constituency voting for a Brexit candidate in Sleaford?
The BBC trumpeted Fallon's claim that Richmond represented the electorate now rejecting Brexit. Does Sleaford now super cede Richmond & mean that the country is embracing Brexit more than ever (actually it is, according to recent YouGov poll).
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Not really because both the Ukip & Tory vote went down & Labour aren't advocating the U.K. remain in the EU.Steve Hunt wrote:But Richmond voted heavily in favour of Remain in the referendum. Surely them returning a Remain LibDem candidate isn't much of a story?Ralph wrote:A safe Tory seat staying Tory isn't much of a story. Ukip's share of the vote went down. The only part of the result that's interesting is just how badly Labour did.Steve Hunt wrote:BBC were creaming themselves after the Richmond by election.Roddy wrote:4th again
Considerably quieter today following the Tory's & UKIP securing 70% of the Sleaford vote.
If it is, then equal coverage might be expected to a strong "Out" constituency voting for a Brexit candidate in Sleaford?
The BBC trumpeted Fallon's claim that Richmond represented the electorate now rejecting Brexit. Does Sleaford now super cede Richmond & mean that the country is embracing Brexit more than ever (actually it is, according to recent YouGov poll).
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Turnout was down from 70% in 2015 to 37%, Ralph, as I understand it.
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Where's Farron?
The snivelling little cunt.
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As he is a weasel, he will be sulking in his lair.finchman wrote:Where's Farron?
The snivelling little cunt.
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I meant vote share (I think)Steve Hunt wrote:Turnout was down from 70% in 2015 to 37%, Ralph, as I understand it.
These are the figures. I'm not sure what it says about Brexit tbh.
The only thing that I can see in those figures is Labour are in trouble & people's worst predictions about Corbyn were right.
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I think all the moaning 'PLP labour' supporters should start their own party (or join farron's lot) - Corbyn is delivering true labour policies.Ralph wrote:I meant vote share (I think)Steve Hunt wrote:Turnout was down from 70% in 2015 to 37%, Ralph, as I understand it.
These are the figures. I'm not sure what it says about Brexit tbh.
The only thing that I can see in those figures is Labour are in trouble & people's worst predictions about Corbyn were right.
Which was not the case for many a year, - certainly since blair.
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The PLP have dialed down the criticism of Corbyn since the second leadership contest. I don't know whether it was a conscious choice or they've just given up. It doesn't seem to be making any difference either way.Roy Twing wrote:I think all the moaning 'PLP labour' supporters should start their own party (or join farron's lot) - Corbyn is delivering true labour policies.Ralph wrote:I meant vote share (I think)Steve Hunt wrote:Turnout was down from 70% in 2015 to 37%, Ralph, as I understand it.
These are the figures. I'm not sure what it says about Brexit tbh.
The only thing that I can see in those figures is Labour are in trouble & people's worst predictions about Corbyn were right.
Which was not the case for many a year, - certainly since blair.
Corbyn's policies are thin on the ground & not a great deal different to Ed Miliband's. Has anybody worked out what he genuinely thinks about Brexit?
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I think for however much it matters Ralph, that he's just as much opposed to the EU as I am in reality, albeit for different reasons, but he's trapped into supporting it in public by politics.
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I agree.Royal24s wrote:I think for however much it matters Ralph, that he's just as much opposed to the EU as I am in reality, albeit for different reasons, but he's trapped into supporting it in public by politics.
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The only thing that will save Labour is a complete cull of all the Blairites. Stalin would know how to do this.
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Well that was a civilised protest...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38274395
I guess all the venom is saved for the Tories and UKip.
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I guess all the venom is saved for the Tories and UKip.
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it's set up for clair to come riding in like the hero
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Came out today muttering about not knowing student debt being so high.
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