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Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:42 pm
by Hillman avenger
m4rkb wrote:So his country of origin refused to have him back. Is that right?

Sounds a godsend for jihadis supported by Islamist thinking foreign governments. Get them here and refuse to have them back. We're stupid enough to stand for it as well.
It's something UKIP and before them the BNP never grasped ( or if they did, did not want it understood)

If you deport someone, and the destination country refuse to have them, they have to come back. The carrier is obliged to return the person.
That's true whether or not you are in the EU.

Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:47 pm
by m4rkb
How fucking ridiculous. No doubt you're in favour of it though and can't see any problem.

Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:54 pm
by Hillman avenger
m4rkb wrote:How fucking ridiculous. No doubt you're in favour of it though and can't see any problem.
As a matter of fact I don't think it's right.

I know you like to put words in peoples' mouths.

But the problem is how do you force a country to accept someone they don't want to accept.

Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:09 pm
by m4rkb
Well I remember Australia deporting someone many years back based on nothing but historical links. Naturally we accepted him as he was a criminal.

As for the question, I'm sure we could be just as awkward if we tried.

Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:43 pm
by AlcoholBrazil
Stalin never had the need to deport anyone. He just found places where they could work and spend the rest of their days.
Sure, it didn't include Playstations, luxury apartments and huge benefit cheques.

Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:02 pm
by Roy Twing
Any country that refuses to accept deported citizens should be denied visas.

Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:05 pm
by Hillman avenger
AlcoholBrazil wrote:Stalin never had the need to deport anyone. He just found places where they could work and spend the rest of their days.
Sure, it didn't include Playstations, luxury apartments and huge benefit cheques.
You've got the full set haven't you?

A nap hand of prejudice.

if we are talking about people in detention, one can only marvel at their lack of gratitude for the life of luxury they live...to the extent that suicide is way higher than ever before.

If you mean as an asylum seeker these would be the people who get £35 a week and who are prohibited from working.

This is the first time I have read a remark on here suggesting we should emulate Stalin. Nice.

Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 6:46 pm
by AlcoholBrazil
What are asylum seekers supposed to do , Sit on their arses indefinitely. We have enough home-grown layabouts without
importing any more. You can't subsidise the feckless that don't like the country they were born in.
And they can't be that suicidal when you consider the amount of children they continue to have , irrespective of their income.

Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:29 pm
by m4rkb
Roy Twing wrote:Any country that refuses to accept deported citizens should be denied visas.
That does seem to be a rather simple and effective solution. :dart:

Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:00 pm
by m4 colin
Hillman avenger wrote:
m4 colin wrote:I was told it would have been even worse but he couldnt work the truck gearbox properly to get up speed
Told by whom?
Nobody you know . Other drivers at my work

Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:12 pm
by Hillman avenger
m4 colin wrote:
Hillman avenger wrote:
m4 colin wrote:I was told it would have been even worse but he couldnt work the truck gearbox properly to get up speed
Told by whom?
Nobody you know . Other drivers at my work
Oh.

Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:32 pm
by The Tick
Roy Twing wrote:Any country that refuses to accept deported citizens should be denied visas.
Thing is, many of the countries where the migrants come from are those who already have high visa restrictions for UK entry. Which is why they stay here illegally in the first place.

Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:56 pm
by paolo
Hillman avenger wrote:
AlcoholBrazil wrote:Stalin never had the need to deport anyone. He just found places where they could work and spend the rest of their days.
Sure, it didn't include Playstations, luxury apartments and huge benefit cheques.
You've got the full set haven't you?

A nap hand of prejudice.

if we are talking about people in detention, one can only marvel at their lack of gratitude for the life of luxury they live...to the extent that suicide is way higher than ever before.

If you mean as an asylum seeker these would be the people who get £35 a week and who are prohibited from working.

This is the first time I have read a remark on here suggesting we should emulate Stalin. Nice.
Slow hand clap for the resident

Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 12:35 pm
by Hillman avenger
AlcoholBrazil wrote:What are asylum seekers supposed to do , Sit on their arses indefinitely. We have enough home-grown layabouts without
importing any more. You can't subsidise the feckless that don't like the country they were born in.
And they can't be that suicidal when you consider the amount of children they continue to have , irrespective of their income.
The great majority of illegal immigrants are here alone.

And the point about suicide was re people in prison...not in a position to impregnate anyone.

Apart from that, great post.

Re: Truck driven into Christmas market in Berlin.

Posted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:10 pm
by paolo
Sherry.... or champagne?

Hic hic