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Foreign Aid

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 7:58 am
by finchman
Stop it right now and spend it in the UK.

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:07 am
by Roy Twing
finchman wrote:Stop it right now and spend it in the UK.
I have never understood the insistence by all (it seems) of the mainstream parties to retain this baffling ring fenced expenditure. Maybe it serves some purpose that we are not aware of, but the notion that politicians and senior civil servants are doing it purely out of altruism (albeit with other peoples' cash) is of course laughable.

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:27 am
by Zambo
Over £12b. Think what that could do if used sensibly in this country. How can you justify the cuts governments have made, and then send this sort of money out of the country. Moreover, two of the countries we send 'aid' to have expensive space programs. The clowns who agree this hide behind 'it's our moral obligation' but have no idea exactly where this money goes and who benefits fom it.

We continue to be the mugs of the world.

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:36 am
by paolo
how many millions went to the ethiopian spice girls?

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 8:44 am
by The Tick
finchman wrote:Stop it right now and spend it in the UK.
Well, we should stop military aid for sure.

Civilian-oriented aid should continue.

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:06 am
by m4 colin
paolo wrote:how many millions went to the ethiopian spice girls?
Whatever it was They never would have got it before some kind of Gangster grabbed it.

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:37 am
by Royal24s
Foreign aid is a way of gaining influence in third world countries and indirectly paying bribes. Good deal of false accounting involved which benefits our "own" people too.

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:45 am
by AlcoholBrazil
This is why the world population has rocketed to over 10 billion. This is why we need GM synthetic food to feed everyone.

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:54 am
by m4rkb
Royal24s wrote:Foreign aid is a way of gaining influence in third world countries and indirectly paying bribes. Good deal of false accounting involved which benefits our "own" people too.
If you mean it comes back via a revolving door in some kind of unseen backhander then I've always suspected the same.

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 9:55 am
by m4rkb
The Tick wrote:
finchman wrote:Stop it right now and spend it in the UK.
Well, we should stop military aid for sure.

Civilian-oriented aid should continue.
You not out in the mobile soup kitchen this year Tick?

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:27 am
by paolo
m4 colin wrote:
paolo wrote:how many millions went to the ethiopian spice girls?
Whatever it was They never would have got it before some kind of Gangster grabbed it.

from the guardian

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:36 am
by The Tick
m4rkb wrote:
The Tick wrote:
finchman wrote:Stop it right now and spend it in the UK.
Well, we should stop military aid for sure.

Civilian-oriented aid should continue.
You not out in the mobile soup kitchen this year Tick?
Yes, and looking to run you over with it. :D

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:44 am
by AlcoholBrazil
The Tick wrote:Yes, and looking to run you over with it. :D
Unfortunate choice of words when you consider Berlin last night.

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:28 am
by m4 colin
AlcoholBrazil wrote:This is why the world population has rocketed to over 10 billion. This is why we need GM synthetic food to feed everyone.
Like crops that dont give seed to plant for next year . that will help the poor in the third world wont it? there is a word for that and that word is...Evil

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:19 am
by m4rkb
The Tick wrote:
m4rkb wrote:
The Tick wrote:
finchman wrote:Stop it right now and spend it in the UK.
Well, we should stop military aid for sure.

Civilian-oriented aid should continue.
You not out in the mobile soup kitchen this year Tick?
Yes, and looking to run you over with it. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLOHhzLlaJo

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:56 am
by The Ghost of Alex Higgins
Should vehicles be banned?

Re: Foreign Aid

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:04 pm
by Royal24s
m4rkb wrote:
Royal24s wrote:Foreign aid is a way of gaining influence in third world countries and indirectly paying bribes. Good deal of false accounting involved which benefits our "own" people too.
If you mean it comes back via a revolving door in some kind of unseen backhander then I've always suspected the same.

Course it does m4rkb. I've seen it in action. Everyone gets a share except the people it's actually intended for and sometimes we get contracts or the facility to slip troops quietly in and out , refuel aircraft and so on.
Of course, because it's all so fucking cloak and dagger, half of it is simply nicked by almost anyone involved in the chain, and written off. Before the EU, it was the most untraceable source of income for politicians and functionaries.