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Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:39 am
by Rossco
Zambo wrote:
ccreds wrote:
Basualdo wrote:And?
Discrimination when they leave prison.
No one forces people to commit crimes. You reap what you sow. I give zero fucks for any criminal.
As an ex prisoner I agree with this. If you commit crimes then tough titty itty bitty. Do your whack and dry em.

If people change their ways truly then they deserve a second chance in society.

If bankers can be forgiven then why can't ex cons...huh...huh...I ask youse this (half in jest of course. But them there thieving, lying fuckers were all the same).

Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 11:39 am
by Ralph
Rossco wrote:
Zambo wrote:
ccreds wrote:
Basualdo wrote:And?
Discrimination when they leave prison.
No one forces people to commit crimes. You reap what you sow. I give zero fucks for any criminal.
As an ex prisoner I agree with this. If you commit crimes then tough titty itty bitty. Do your whack and dry em.

If people change their ways truly then they deserve a second chance in society.

If bankers can be forgiven then why can't ex cons...huh...huh...I ask youse this (half in jest of course. But them there thieving, lying fuckers were all the same).
What did you go to prison for Roscco?

Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:18 pm
by Hillman avenger
Crimes against the English language with numerous breaches of logic taken into account.

Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 3:39 pm
by Hillman avenger
Point missed.

Nothing to do with level of comfort/deprivation prisoners experience.

Everything to do with the truly stupid cuts Gove made and compounded by the low performance of outsourcers, as in this case. In these circumstances the frequent calls made on here for longer sentences, stopping remission, etc, would only make all this even worse.

Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:49 pm
by Zambo
Hillman avenger wrote:Point missed.

Nothing to do with level of comfort/deprivation prisoners experience.

Everything to do with the truly stupid cuts Gove made and compounded by the low performance of outsourcers, as in this case. In these circumstances the frequent calls made on here for longer sentences, stopping remission, etc, would only make all this even worse.
Here's a point that's not missed Hillman, can you spot it?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -time.html

Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:18 am
by Rossco
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Zambo wrote:
ccreds wrote:
Basualdo wrote:And?
Discrimination when they leave prison.
No one forces people to commit crimes. You reap what you sow. I give zero fucks for any criminal.
As an ex prisoner I agree with this. If you commit crimes then tough titty itty bitty. Do your whack and dry em.

If people change their ways truly then they deserve a second chance in society.

If bankers can be forgiven then why can't ex cons...huh...huh...I ask youse this (half in jest of course. But them there thieving, lying fuckers were all the same).
What did you go to prison for Roscco?
Bucking yer ma!!!

Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 7:04 am
by Ralph
Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Zambo wrote:
ccreds wrote:
Basualdo wrote:And?
Discrimination when they leave prison.
No one forces people to commit crimes. You reap what you sow. I give zero fucks for any criminal.
As an ex prisoner I agree with this. If you commit crimes then tough titty itty bitty. Do your whack and dry em.

If people change their ways truly then they deserve a second chance in society.

If bankers can be forgiven then why can't ex cons...huh...huh...I ask youse this (half in jest of course. But them there thieving, lying fuckers were all the same).
What did you go to prison for Roscco?
Bucking yer ma!!!
Very unchristian language Roscco. And at Christmas as well. I'm appalled.

Are you not going to say why you went inside? You don't have to, obviously. But you volunteered the information you'd been to jail. Seemed like the obvious question to ask.

Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 1:39 pm
by Rossco
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Zambo wrote:
ccreds wrote:
Basualdo wrote:And?
Discrimination when they leave prison.
No one forces people to commit crimes. You reap what you sow. I give zero fucks for any criminal.
As an ex prisoner I agree with this. If you commit crimes then tough titty itty bitty. Do your whack and dry em.

If people change their ways truly then they deserve a second chance in society.

If bankers can be forgiven then why can't ex cons...huh...huh...I ask youse this (half in jest of course. But them there thieving, lying fuckers were all the same).
What did you go to prison for Roscco?
Bucking yer ma!!!
Very unchristian language Roscco. And at Christmas as well. I'm appalled.

Are you not going to say why you went inside? You don't have to, obviously. But you volunteered the information you'd been to jail. Seemed like the obvious question to ask.


How could you judge anyone on anything? Holy or unholy. And why would anyone give anything you say any second thought. Been wrong to many times Ralph....way to many.

Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 2:01 pm
by Ralph
Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Zambo wrote:
ccreds wrote: Discrimination when they leave prison.
No one forces people to commit crimes. You reap what you sow. I give zero fucks for any criminal.
As an ex prisoner I agree with this. If you commit crimes then tough titty itty bitty. Do your whack and dry em.

If people change their ways truly then they deserve a second chance in society.

If bankers can be forgiven then why can't ex cons...huh...huh...I ask youse this (half in jest of course. But them there thieving, lying fuckers were all the same).
What did you go to prison for Roscco?
Bucking yer ma!!!
Very unchristian language Roscco. And at Christmas as well. I'm appalled.

Are you not going to say why you went inside? You don't have to, obviously. But you volunteered the information you'd been to jail. Seemed like the obvious question to ask.


How could you judge anyone on anything? Holy or unholy. And why would anyone give anything you say any second thought. Been wrong to many times Ralph....way to many.
Wrong about what? You seem to be confusing someone having a different opinion to you with being 'wrong'.

Anyway let's have this argument another day. Merry Christmas Rossco.

Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:03 pm
by Hillman avenger
Anyone noticed what there was in common between Birmingham and Swaleside?

Both outsourced .

Wnen will our governments learn?

They expect it will be cheaper..it isn't.
They expect it will be better..it isn't.

This myth that the private sector delivers value and efficiency where the public sector can't, needs to be destroyed once and for all.

Railways
Health
IT
DWP
Prisons
Probation
Prisoner transport
etc
etc

Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:12 pm
by Zambo
Have to agree with you Hillman, there are many concerns that should never be privatised. Prison life is still better than it is for some law abiding citizens though. The rioters should do segregation for 3 months and not leave their cells.

Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:15 pm
by The Ghost of Alex Higgins
Or just be killed

Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:33 pm
by Rossco
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Zambo wrote:
No one forces people to commit crimes. You reap what you sow. I give zero fucks for any criminal.
As an ex prisoner I agree with this. If you commit crimes then tough titty itty bitty. Do your whack and dry em.

If people change their ways truly then they deserve a second chance in society.

If bankers can be forgiven then why can't ex cons...huh...huh...I ask youse this (half in jest of course. But them there thieving, lying fuckers were all the same).
What did you go to prison for Roscco?
Bucking yer ma!!!
Very unchristian language Roscco. And at Christmas as well. I'm appalled.

Are you not going to say why you went inside? You don't have to, obviously. But you volunteered the information you'd been to jail. Seemed like the obvious question to ask.


How could you judge anyone on anything? Holy or unholy. And why would anyone give anything you say any second thought. Been wrong to many times Ralph....way to many.
Wrong about what? You seem to be confusing someone having a different opinion to you with being 'wrong'.

Anyway let's have this argument another day. Merry Christmas Rossco.
Wrong on pretty much how you see the world and want it to be. From my point of view. So you are wrong on many things...from my point of view.

And the ma comment was a bit harsh but said tongue in cheek as well. But still bit much joking or not. Sorry. Prison rule number one....never ask a man what he is doing time for though.

And yes Merry Christmas to yourself and all your loved ones. Have a good one.

Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2016 7:37 pm
by Zambo
The Ghost of Alex Higgins wrote:Or just be killed
A shade harsh. Just a shade mind you.