Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

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Zambo wrote:
ccreds wrote:
Basualdo wrote:And?
Discrimination when they leave prison.
No one forces people to commit crimes. You reap what you sow. I give zero fucks for any criminal.
As an ex prisoner I agree with this. If you commit crimes then tough titty itty bitty. Do your whack and dry em.

If people change their ways truly then they deserve a second chance in society.

If bankers can be forgiven then why can't ex cons...huh...huh...I ask youse this (half in jest of course. But them there thieving, lying fuckers were all the same).
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Rossco wrote:
Zambo wrote:
ccreds wrote:
Basualdo wrote:And?
Discrimination when they leave prison.
No one forces people to commit crimes. You reap what you sow. I give zero fucks for any criminal.
As an ex prisoner I agree with this. If you commit crimes then tough titty itty bitty. Do your whack and dry em.

If people change their ways truly then they deserve a second chance in society.

If bankers can be forgiven then why can't ex cons...huh...huh...I ask youse this (half in jest of course. But them there thieving, lying fuckers were all the same).
What did you go to prison for Roscco?

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Crimes against the English language with numerous breaches of logic taken into account.
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Point missed.

Nothing to do with level of comfort/deprivation prisoners experience.

Everything to do with the truly stupid cuts Gove made and compounded by the low performance of outsourcers, as in this case. In these circumstances the frequent calls made on here for longer sentences, stopping remission, etc, would only make all this even worse.
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Hillman avenger wrote:Point missed.

Nothing to do with level of comfort/deprivation prisoners experience.

Everything to do with the truly stupid cuts Gove made and compounded by the low performance of outsourcers, as in this case. In these circumstances the frequent calls made on here for longer sentences, stopping remission, etc, would only make all this even worse.
Here's a point that's not missed Hillman, can you spot it?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -time.html
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Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Zambo wrote:
ccreds wrote:
Basualdo wrote:And?
Discrimination when they leave prison.
No one forces people to commit crimes. You reap what you sow. I give zero fucks for any criminal.
As an ex prisoner I agree with this. If you commit crimes then tough titty itty bitty. Do your whack and dry em.

If people change their ways truly then they deserve a second chance in society.

If bankers can be forgiven then why can't ex cons...huh...huh...I ask youse this (half in jest of course. But them there thieving, lying fuckers were all the same).
What did you go to prison for Roscco?
Bucking yer ma!!!
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Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Zambo wrote:
ccreds wrote:
Basualdo wrote:And?
Discrimination when they leave prison.
No one forces people to commit crimes. You reap what you sow. I give zero fucks for any criminal.
As an ex prisoner I agree with this. If you commit crimes then tough titty itty bitty. Do your whack and dry em.

If people change their ways truly then they deserve a second chance in society.

If bankers can be forgiven then why can't ex cons...huh...huh...I ask youse this (half in jest of course. But them there thieving, lying fuckers were all the same).
What did you go to prison for Roscco?
Bucking yer ma!!!
Very unchristian language Roscco. And at Christmas as well. I'm appalled.

Are you not going to say why you went inside? You don't have to, obviously. But you volunteered the information you'd been to jail. Seemed like the obvious question to ask.

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Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Zambo wrote:
ccreds wrote:
Basualdo wrote:And?
Discrimination when they leave prison.
No one forces people to commit crimes. You reap what you sow. I give zero fucks for any criminal.
As an ex prisoner I agree with this. If you commit crimes then tough titty itty bitty. Do your whack and dry em.

If people change their ways truly then they deserve a second chance in society.

If bankers can be forgiven then why can't ex cons...huh...huh...I ask youse this (half in jest of course. But them there thieving, lying fuckers were all the same).
What did you go to prison for Roscco?
Bucking yer ma!!!
Very unchristian language Roscco. And at Christmas as well. I'm appalled.

Are you not going to say why you went inside? You don't have to, obviously. But you volunteered the information you'd been to jail. Seemed like the obvious question to ask.


How could you judge anyone on anything? Holy or unholy. And why would anyone give anything you say any second thought. Been wrong to many times Ralph....way to many.
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Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Zambo wrote:
ccreds wrote: Discrimination when they leave prison.
No one forces people to commit crimes. You reap what you sow. I give zero fucks for any criminal.
As an ex prisoner I agree with this. If you commit crimes then tough titty itty bitty. Do your whack and dry em.

If people change their ways truly then they deserve a second chance in society.

If bankers can be forgiven then why can't ex cons...huh...huh...I ask youse this (half in jest of course. But them there thieving, lying fuckers were all the same).
What did you go to prison for Roscco?
Bucking yer ma!!!
Very unchristian language Roscco. And at Christmas as well. I'm appalled.

Are you not going to say why you went inside? You don't have to, obviously. But you volunteered the information you'd been to jail. Seemed like the obvious question to ask.


How could you judge anyone on anything? Holy or unholy. And why would anyone give anything you say any second thought. Been wrong to many times Ralph....way to many.
Wrong about what? You seem to be confusing someone having a different opinion to you with being 'wrong'.

Anyway let's have this argument another day. Merry Christmas Rossco.

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Anyone noticed what there was in common between Birmingham and Swaleside?

Both outsourced .

Wnen will our governments learn?

They expect it will be cheaper..it isn't.
They expect it will be better..it isn't.

This myth that the private sector delivers value and efficiency where the public sector can't, needs to be destroyed once and for all.

Railways
Health
IT
DWP
Prisons
Probation
Prisoner transport
etc
etc
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Have to agree with you Hillman, there are many concerns that should never be privatised. Prison life is still better than it is for some law abiding citizens though. The rioters should do segregation for 3 months and not leave their cells.
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Or just be killed
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Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Zambo wrote:
No one forces people to commit crimes. You reap what you sow. I give zero fucks for any criminal.
As an ex prisoner I agree with this. If you commit crimes then tough titty itty bitty. Do your whack and dry em.

If people change their ways truly then they deserve a second chance in society.

If bankers can be forgiven then why can't ex cons...huh...huh...I ask youse this (half in jest of course. But them there thieving, lying fuckers were all the same).
What did you go to prison for Roscco?
Bucking yer ma!!!
Very unchristian language Roscco. And at Christmas as well. I'm appalled.

Are you not going to say why you went inside? You don't have to, obviously. But you volunteered the information you'd been to jail. Seemed like the obvious question to ask.


How could you judge anyone on anything? Holy or unholy. And why would anyone give anything you say any second thought. Been wrong to many times Ralph....way to many.
Wrong about what? You seem to be confusing someone having a different opinion to you with being 'wrong'.

Anyway let's have this argument another day. Merry Christmas Rossco.
Wrong on pretty much how you see the world and want it to be. From my point of view. So you are wrong on many things...from my point of view.

And the ma comment was a bit harsh but said tongue in cheek as well. But still bit much joking or not. Sorry. Prison rule number one....never ask a man what he is doing time for though.

And yes Merry Christmas to yourself and all your loved ones. Have a good one.
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Re: Prison riot at Birmingham HMP

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The Ghost of Alex Higgins wrote:Or just be killed
A shade harsh. Just a shade mind you.
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