Champagne Socialists

[finchman]

Anthony Wedgwood Benn
Tony Blair
Edward Milliband
Derek Hatton
Emma Thompson
Edward Izzard

[The Ghost of Alex Higgins]

Damien Allbran

[Zambo]

Victor Meldrew
Frank Skinner
The BBC
Piers Morgan
Bob Geldof
Corbyn

[Ralph]

Victor Meldrew
Frank Skinner
The BBC
Piers Morgan
Bob Geldof
Corbyn

Donald Trump supporting Piers Morgan & Dave Cameron's mate Bob Geldof?

[Lou Grant]

It's important to remember that if you ever become successful you must instantly stop wanting fair conditions for the ordinary working man or woman.

[AlcoholBrazil]

J K Rowling
Gary Lineker
James Corden
Benedict Cucumberpatch

and any other luvvie cunt that thinks a vote to Leave the EU equates with wanting to install a concentration camp in every UK city
and gas all the immigrants.

[Zambo]

It's important to remember that if you ever become successful you must instantly stop wanting fair conditions for the ordinary working man or woman.

What a load of cods. Socialists want everyone to have 'fair conditions' whether they have earned them or not. Socialism feeds the irresponsible and encourages irresponsibilty. It also stifles enterprise and discourages ambition. It's a death knoll.

If those who champion this blight on the world find themselves well off for whatever reason, then if they are true to their beliefs then they should distribute their wealth to the not so well off.

[Ralph]

It's important to remember that if you ever become successful you must instantly stop wanting fair conditions for the ordinary working man or woman.

Why is someone like J.K. Rowling a hypocrite for continuing to defend the Welfare State now she's made a lot of money. I don't understand the right wing logic. Politics of envy I think.

[Desolation]

It's important to remember that if you ever become successful you must instantly stop wanting fair conditions for the ordinary working man or woman.

Well yeah, but these days they're only intrested in multiculturalism, climate change and LGBTIQA issues and fuck the working man.

[Ralph]

It's important to remember that if you ever become successful you must instantly stop wanting fair conditions for the ordinary working man or woman.

What a load of cods. Socialists want everyone to have 'fair conditions' whether they have earned them or not. Socialism feeds the irresponsible and encourages irresponsibilty. It also stifles enterprise and discourages ambition. It's a death knoll.

If those who champion this blight on the world find themselves well off for whatever reason, then if they are true to their beliefs then they should distribute their wealth to the not so well off.

Sorry who's advocating the rich just start giving all their money away as an economic policy? You keep saying it, but it's ridiculous.

[Zambo]

Jim Royle set an excellent example with his huge donation. Other CS should follow his example.

[finchman]

Derek 'Degsy' Hatton, the former hard left militant scouse councillor who hated everything 'Thatcheh' stood for.

Wind on a couple of decades and he is a massive fucking capitalist who owns properties all over Cyprus and has fucking shares in bmw.

[Fug1]

Most people are full of shit, it all depends on where the game of musical chairs leaves them at any given point.

I've never been rich, I've never been well off, but I'm not jealous of those that are, I've got my own guage of happy, people understandbly change there thinking to when their circumstances change, how can anybody have a problem with that?

The problems start when you dismiss other things as bullshit when your in the pink, and change your mind when your in the shit.

Everything evolves.

[Ralph]

Derek 'Degsy' Hatton, the former hard left militant scouse councillor who hated everything 'Thatcheh' stood for.

Wind on a couple of decades and he is a massive fucking capitalist who owns properties all over Cyprus and has fucking shares in bmw.

Yep.

Not much evidence he was a socialist when he briefly worked for Kelvin Mackenzie at Talksport. Remember him arguing for the reintroduction of capital punishment & praising private healthcare.

[finchman]

Most socialists are deluded.........just look at Corbyn.

[Ralph]

Most socialists are deluded.........just look at Corbyn.

At least his heart's in the right place. Most Tories are deluded & motivated by antipathy to other people.

[carcinogen]

tbf anyone who says they are 'this' or are 'that' regarding politics, religion, or sexuality are to be fucking avoided. Just live a life and let others judge what you are or aren't. Fucking cunts all of 'em. Champagne or not.

[Royal24s]

Most socialists are deluded.........just look at Corbyn.

At least his heart's in the right place. Most Tories are deluded & motivated by antipathy to other people.

I think most people can see socialism for what it is now Ralph,but I remain mystified about why you think what " Tories" are or are not effects that in any way ???
Theres an assumption on your part and many others that anyone who detests socialism must be either a conservative or somehow " right wing", but that's not true at all. Generally, they're ordinary people trying to get on with their lives without these fucking socialist nutters bothering and lecturing them. They generally do make loads of money out of the socialist con game , and they certainly don't want their money or life choices taken by the state like working people, but I don't personally care if they're rich - good luck to them , but it's the by products of their little game I don't like in terms of destroying everything decent , truthful or productive as they go.
You're on about people being deluded, and socialists aren't deluded , but the people who vote fir them certainly are.
Don't you ever get tired of all their theories and promises turning out to be false ?

[Royal24s]

tbf anyone who says they are 'this' or are 'that' regarding politics, religion, or sexuality are to be fucking avoided. Just live a life and let others judge what you are or aren't. Fucking cunts all of 'em. Champagne or not.

Which is to say that no one should actually believe in anything. Sounds a bit empty to me.

[Ralph]

Most socialists are deluded.........just look at Corbyn.

At least his heart's in the right place. Most Tories are deluded & motivated by antipathy to other people.

I think most people can see socialism for what it is now Ralph,but I remain mystified about why you think what " Tories" are or are not effects that in any way ???
Theres an assumption on your part and many others that anyone who detests socialism must be either a conservative or somehow " right wing", but that's not true at all. Generally, they're ordinary people trying to get on with their lives without these fucking socialist nutters bothering and lecturing them. They generally do make loads of money out of the socialist con game , and they certainly don't want their money or life choices taken by the state like working people, but I don't personally care if they're rich - good luck to them , but it's the by products of their little game I don't like in terms of destroying everything decent , truthful or productive as they go.
You're on about people being deluded, and socialists aren't deluded , but the people who vote fir them certainly are.
Don't you ever get tired of all their theories and promises turning out to be false ?

Normal people don't have such strong views on political philosophies. Most people aren't that interested in politics full stop. Announcing you detest socialism repeatedly is generally a sign you're angry & on the fringe right.

Bit like if you see someone screaming Tory scum at a demonstration, it's a safe bet they're on the fringe left, or a posh student going through a revolutionary phase.

[Ralph]

tbf anyone who says they are 'this' or are 'that' regarding politics, religion, or sexuality are to be fucking avoided. Just live a life and let others judge what you are or aren't. Fucking cunts all of 'em. Champagne or not.

Not sure how many of the celebrities named in this thread have called themselves socialists. Probably just expressed a left wing view at some point which has angered the righties. So they're 'Champagne Socialists'.

[Salem]

It's important to remember that if you ever become successful you must instantly stop wanting fair conditions for the ordinary working man or woman.

Why is someone like J.K. Rowling a hypocrite for continuing to defend the Welfare State now she's made a lot of money. I don't understand the right wing logic. Politics of envy I think.

I've always thought it was the left that was the politics of envy . You see , how i see it is you study hard all through school and college . You work your fingers to the bone and all the hours God sends just to make it a little better for you and yours and eventually , if you're extremely fortunate , all your hard work pays off . You've made enough money through study and hard work to call yourself wealthy . How do the left repay you ?? Tax the fuck out of you . Give your hard earned dosh to the 'Less fortunate' who can't be fucked to go out and earn it . Or maybe a 'full time stay at home mommy' of fifteen who thinks it's a good career move to spend the next sixteen years claiming off the state rather than contributing to it .

I dunno , i guess what i'm trying to say is why is it fair to be punished because you've done well for yourself ? Surely hard work and prudence should be rewarded not punished by vicious taxation by a political philosophy which thinks wealth is bad ?

Perhaps i'm being naive .

[Ralph]

Eric Cantona
Sir Alex Ferguson

[Ralph]

It's important to remember that if you ever become successful you must instantly stop wanting fair conditions for the ordinary working man or woman.

Why is someone like J.K. Rowling a hypocrite for continuing to defend the Welfare State now she's made a lot of money. I don't understand the right wing logic. Politics of envy I think.

I've always thought it was the left that was the politics of envy. You see , how i see it is you study hard all through school and college . You work your fingers to the bone and all the hours God sends just to make it a little better for you and yours and eventually , if you're extremely fortunate , all your hard work pays off . You've made enough money through study and hard work to call yourself wealthy . How do the left repay you ?? Tax the fuck out of you . Give your hard earned dosh to the 'Less fortunate' who can't be fucked to go out and earn it . Or maybe a 'full time stay at home mommy' of fifteen who thinks it's a good career move to spend the next sixteen years claiming off the state rather than contributing to it .

I dunno , i guess what i'm trying to say is why is it fair to be punished because you've done well for yourself ? Surely hard work and prudence should be rewarded not punished by vicious taxation by a political philosophy which thinks wealth is bad ?

Perhaps i'm being naive .

In a thread listing wealthy left wingers you're making the point that left wingers think wealth is bad? And suggesting people who claim welfare can't be bothered to go to work in response to a post about J.K. Rowling?

[Salem]

Not really , just that you stated that right wing views were the politics of envy where as i believe the opposite .

Sorry for any confusion