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Zambo wrote:
The Tick wrote:A great man who for decades stuck two fingers up at the USA and lived to tell the tale (if you get my drift). Even more remarkable given Cuba's proximity to the global bullyboy.

RIP comrade. Thank you for showing the world how to survive and keep your ideals despite having every economic sanction thrown your way.
Why am I not surprised. The Tick another 'useful idiot' as a Castro worshipper. The scum who sent his people to slave labour camps for listening to The Beatles, then erected a statue of John Lennon in Havana to attract tourism. Unless something in Cuba is related to tourism or foreign dollars, it is left to rot and crumble. Yet, he was a billionaire.

People who support him are either thick as shite or scum.

I support him and with good reason. Does that make me thick as shite or scum?

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Roger 1984 wrote:
Zambo wrote:
The Tick wrote:A great man who for decades stuck two fingers up at the USA and lived to tell the tale (if you get my drift). Even more remarkable given Cuba's proximity to the global bullyboy.

RIP comrade. Thank you for showing the world how to survive and keep your ideals despite having every economic sanction thrown your way.
Why am I not surprised. The Tick another 'useful idiot' as a Castro worshipper. The scum who sent his people to slave labour camps for listening to The Beatles, then erected a statue of John Lennon in Havana to attract tourism. Unless something in Cuba is related to tourism or foreign dollars, it is left to rot and crumble. Yet, he was a billionaire.

People who support him are either thick as shite or scum.

I support him and with good reason. Does that make me thick as shite or scum?
I'll let you choose. You can tell us what 'the good reason' is though if you like. However if it's the same reason as The Tick I've already split my sides.

Maybe it's down to one of the many atrocities that he carried out from the jungles of Peru to the deserts of Ethiopia, then again it was maybe because he smoked big cigars.
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Zambo wrote:
Roger 1984 wrote:
Zambo wrote:
The Tick wrote:A great man who for decades stuck two fingers up at the USA and lived to tell the tale (if you get my drift). Even more remarkable given Cuba's proximity to the global bullyboy.

RIP comrade. Thank you for showing the world how to survive and keep your ideals despite having every economic sanction thrown your way.
Why am I not surprised. The Tick another 'useful idiot' as a Castro worshipper. The scum who sent his people to slave labour camps for listening to The Beatles, then erected a statue of John Lennon in Havana to attract tourism. Unless something in Cuba is related to tourism or foreign dollars, it is left to rot and crumble. Yet, he was a billionaire.

People who support him are either thick as shite or scum.

I support him and with good reason. Does that make me thick as shite or scum?
I'll let you choose. You can tell us what 'the good reason' is though if you like. However if it's the same reason as The Tick I've already split my sides.

Maybe it's down to one of the many atrocities that he carried out from the jungles of Peru to the deserts of Ethiopia, then again it was maybe because he smoked big cigars.
Tick sounds like an intelligent clued-up person and not one to fall foul of propaganda. He has my respect

Just one or two of the reasons (from several) for my respect for the late Fidel Castro (RIP)

Standing up to the imperalists making Cuba a puppet state their people slaves to the empire

The Cuban health system is recognized worldwide for its excellence and its efficiency. Despite extremely limited resources and the dramatic impact caused by the economic sanctions imposed by the United States for more than half a century, Cuba has managed to guarantee access to care for all segments of the population and obtain results similar to those of the most developed nations (Lamrani. 2014)

Lamrani, S. (2014) Cuba’s health care system: A model for the world. Available at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/salim-lam ... 49968.html (Accessed: 26 November 2016).

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Castro was a terrorist and a supporter of terrorism worldwide. He poured millions of his peoples money into terrorism abroad. At home he created a repressive police state and stamped all over human rights issues.

Anyone who supported Castro was a supporter of his methods, they are a supporter of terrorists, they are a supporter of terrorism.
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Fidel hated the US but was happy to let American cars drive around the country. A credit to Cuban mechanics that they can
keep those huge hooded beasts going for all those years.
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Zambo wrote:Castro was a terrorist and a supporter of terrorism worldwide. He poured millions of his peoples money into terrorism abroad. At home he created a repressive police state and stamped all over human rights issues.

Anyone who supported Castro was a supporter of his methods, they are a supporter of terrorists, they are a supporter of terrorism.
Anyone who supports this anti-Castro propaganda are supporters of terrorist,they are a supporter of terrorism

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Zambo wrote:Castro was a terrorist and a supporter of terrorism worldwide. He poured millions of his peoples money into terrorism abroad. At home he created a repressive police state and stamped all over human rights issues.

Anyone who supported Castro was a supporter of his methods, they are a supporter of terrorists, they are a supporter of terrorism.
Castro was fighting terrorists on a limited budget

He did what he had to do
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paolo wrote:
Zambo wrote:Castro was a terrorist and a supporter of terrorism worldwide. He poured millions of his peoples money into terrorism abroad. At home he created a repressive police state and stamped all over human rights issues.

Anyone who supported Castro was a supporter of his methods, they are a supporter of terrorists, they are a supporter of terrorism.
Castro was fighting terrorists on a limited budget

He did what he had to do
What's Zambo's version of terorrists?

American politicians/leaders or Fidel Castro?

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paolo wrote:
Zambo wrote:Castro was a terrorist and a supporter of terrorism worldwide. He poured millions of his peoples money into terrorism abroad. At home he created a repressive police state and stamped all over human rights issues.

Anyone who supported Castro was a supporter of his methods, they are a supporter of terrorists, they are a supporter of terrorism.
Castro was fighting terrorists on a limited budget

He did what he had to do
He funded a lot of them around the world as well. I don't believe he had to do that, particularly at the expense of his own people. Some people are inspired by what he did, some are appalled. Personally, I can't forgive terrorism for any cause. Same with Mandella.
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Roger 1984 wrote:
paolo wrote:
Zambo wrote:Castro was a terrorist and a supporter of terrorism worldwide. He poured millions of his peoples money into terrorism abroad. At home he created a repressive police state and stamped all over human rights issues.

Anyone who supported Castro was a supporter of his methods, they are a supporter of terrorists, they are a supporter of terrorism.
Castro was fighting terrorists on a limited budget

He did what he had to do
What's Zambo's version of terorrists?

American politicians/leaders or Fidel Castro?
Anyone or organisation who uses threats or violence to indimidate for political or so called religious aims.with no exceptions.
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Zambo wrote:
Roger 1984 wrote:
paolo wrote:
Zambo wrote:Castro was a terrorist and a supporter of terrorism worldwide. He poured millions of his peoples money into terrorism abroad. At home he created a repressive police state and stamped all over human rights issues.

Anyone who supported Castro was a supporter of his methods, they are a supporter of terrorists, they are a supporter of terrorism.
Castro was fighting terrorists on a limited budget

He did what he had to do
What's Zambo's version of terorrists?

American politicians/leaders or Fidel Castro?
Anyone or organisation who uses threats or violence to indimidate for political or so called religious aims.with no exceptions.
Ah i see. Have you ever voted in the UK general election?

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Of course Rog.
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Isn't Zambo a Cuban name ?
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AlcoholBrazil wrote:Isn't Zambo a Cuban name ?
My aunty Clarita Zambo used to harvest the cassava root on the west coast. She didn't like Castro though, thoughg he was an absolut cunt and fled to El Paso.
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The Don sums it up

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-38118739

But you might like to take the mighty Corbyn's view instead. :lol:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38117068

How anyone who has a shred of support for human rights can possibly support Mr Castro is baffling. After all, admiration for Castro is common on the Left of politics, and the Left has an honourable tradition of supporting human rights. How does that work out then? He killed his own people.

Just a bit on it

http://babalublog.com/fidel-castros-gre ... s-in-cuba/
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And the Brummie pig was Pig
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The Tick wrote:
Holden Mcgroyne wrote:Ruled for 50 years over a brutal one party state. Torture routine, people 'disappearing' all the time. Thousands of political prisoners, no free speech and gay rights suppressed.

No wonder Tick loved him.
Funny how the right wing mob only care about human rights when it serves as an opportunity to attack a government they were never going to like anyway.

Classic deflection.
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Zambo wrote:Of course Rog.
Youve voted in general elections so very good. So who did you vote for in 1997, 2001, 2005 and 2010?

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Zambo wrote:
paolo wrote:
Zambo wrote:Castro was a terrorist and a supporter of terrorism worldwide. He poured millions of his peoples money into terrorism abroad. At home he created a repressive police state and stamped all over human rights issues.

Anyone who supported Castro was a supporter of his methods, they are a supporter of terrorists, they are a supporter of terrorism.
Castro was fighting terrorists on a limited budget

He did what he had to do
He funded a lot of them around the world as well. I don't believe he had to do that, particularly at the expense of his own people. Some people are inspired by what he did, some are appalled. Personally, I can't forgive terrorism for any cause. Same with Mandella.
The same criteria applies to British and American politicians and leaders and throughout history

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Zambo wrote:The Don sums it up

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-38118739

But you might like to take the mighty Corbyn's view instead. :lol:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38117068

How anyone who has a shred of support for human rights can possibly support Mr Castro is baffling. After all, admiration for Castro is common on the Left of politics, and the Left has an honourable tradition of supporting human rights. How does that work out then? He killed his own people.

Just a bit on it

http://babalublog.com/fidel-castros-gre ... s-in-cuba/
I take Corbyns view. He took on the empire and won preventing an Iraq or Libya falling upon his country and people.The empire fucked up and couldent get the upper hand despite the severe sanctions and embargo trying to cripple Cuba and then propaganda bollocks is then spewed about him. I dont blame Castro killing hired mercenaries

Remember what Bill Richardson and Madeline Albright said about death of children caused by sanctions?

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As if the US/UK really gaved a fucking shite about the Cuban people just similar to how they don't give a fucking bollocks about Iraqi children and people of Aleppo but where there are agendas it suits them to hijack the suffering of their victims

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I dont think he was any worse than any other Latin American dictator
and was probably better than Batista. He also said in an interview he regretted his part in the Missile crisis
I heard gods fast but I'd have to go up against him before I believe it

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Roger 1984 wrote:
Zambo wrote:Of course Rog.
Youve voted in general elections so very good. So who did you vote for in 1997, 2001, 2005 and 2010?
2010 - Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition, before that The Green Party
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Roger 1984 wrote:
Zambo wrote:
paolo wrote:
Zambo wrote:Castro was a terrorist and a supporter of terrorism worldwide. He poured millions of his peoples money into terrorism abroad. At home he created a repressive police state and stamped all over human rights issues.

Anyone who supported Castro was a supporter of his methods, they are a supporter of terrorists, they are a supporter of terrorism.
Castro was fighting terrorists on a limited budget

He did what he had to do
He funded a lot of them around the world as well. I don't believe he had to do that, particularly at the expense of his own people. Some people are inspired by what he did, some are appalled. Personally, I can't forgive terrorism for any cause. Same with Mandella.
The same criteria applies to British and American politicians and leaders and throughout history
You haven't cottoned on to my point yet Rog, and I've made it very straightforward.

A leader, or in this case a scum dictator, can be Mother Theresa for 99% of their lives, but once they become involved in terrorism, they should be wiped off the face of the earth.

This applies to anyone or any organisation
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