Should obese people be restricted from McDonalds?

[Sid Pervcat]

Because every single poster on this board is a healthy Adonis and never eats shit food,drinks or smokes

[AlcoholBrazil]

Genuine obese people prefer KFC Bargain Buckets or the local Doner Kebab outlet. That's where the real fat is .

[kancutlawns]

I don't think the Colonel's finest or Maccie D's are themselves a problem with the fatties. This just supplements a diet and lifestyle where they put on about 10,000 calories a day and part of this comprises of Walkers multipacks crisps, Snickers, Battenburg cakes and rice pudding with big bottles of Coke. Sadly, people are too stupid and incognisant of their physical ill health to change. As always, the rest of us see the price of our groceries go up when the government decides to levy a food tax.

[The Ghost of Alex Higgins]

That's porkys exact "diet"

[Sid Pervcat]

I don't think the Colonel's finest or Maccie D's are themselves a problem with the fatties. This just supplements a diet and lifestyle where they put on about 10,000 calories a day and part of this comprises of Walkers multipacks crisps, Snickers, Battenburg cakes and rice pudding with big bottles of Coke. Sadly, people are too stupid and incognisant of their physical ill health to change. As always, the rest of us see the price of our groceries go up when the government decides to levy a food tax.

The fucks wrong with rice pudding?????

[kancutlawns]

Full of processed sugar.

[The Ghost of Alex Higgins]

Should the obese be gassed?

[The Ghost of Alex Higgins]

Sorry I meant glassed

[warmleatherette]

McDonalds are there to make money by selling food and I expect fat people buy a lot of it.
People should be able to decide what they eat without interference from the government

Agreed. But, as with smokers, alcoholics & drug addicts, I don't see why these people who choose to live like that should have more NHS/Tax Payer money spent on them than the rest of us who try to lead vaguely healthy lives.

It is all about personal responsibility. If you choose to live your life in an irresponsible manner, why should the state pick up the bill?

Smokers and alcoholics pay extra tax on their addictions to pay for extra healthcare, drug addicts would as well if they were legal, have you seen how much tax money has been raised in the States through weed?

I can't recall there being a "unhealthy" food tax, maybe there should be?

[warmleatherette]

McDonalds has been struggling for a number of years as subway has grown rapidly in the U.K. And Europe.

Something that I find utterly bewildering.

I have never been to a Subway since they announced that all their meat is halal slaughtered.

I'm no animal activist (far from it), but halal slaughter seems to me to be utterly cruel & inhumane.

Yeah a bolt through the head is a much nicer way to die...

[Steve Hunt]

McDonalds has been struggling for a number of years as subway has grown rapidly in the U.K. And Europe.

Something that I find utterly bewildering.

I have never been to a Subway since they announced that all their meat is halal slaughtered.

I'm no animal activist (far from it), but halal slaughter seems to me to be utterly cruel & inhumane.

Yeah a bolt through the head is a much nicer way to die...

It's quicker than slitting a throat, warm

[warmleatherette]

McDonalds has been struggling for a number of years as subway has grown rapidly in the U.K. And Europe.

Something that I find utterly bewildering.

I have never been to a Subway since they announced that all their meat is halal slaughtered.

I'm no animal activist (far from it), but halal slaughter seems to me to be utterly cruel & inhumane.

Yeah a bolt through the head is a much nicer way to die...

It's quicker than slitting a throat, warm

If you're really worried about animal welfare stop eating them, anything else is hypocrisy.

[Sid Pervcat]

Full of processed sugar.

Ricist

[kancutlawns]

[Steve Hunt]

McDonalds has been struggling for a number of years as subway has grown rapidly in the U.K. And Europe.

Something that I find utterly bewildering.

I have never been to a Subway since they announced that all their meat is halal slaughtered.

I'm no animal activist (far from it), but halal slaughter seems to me to be utterly cruel & inhumane.

Yeah a bolt through the head is a much nicer way to die...

It's quicker than slitting a throat, warm

If you're really worried about animal welfare stop eating them, anything else is hypocrisy.

I stated earlier that I'm not THAT worried, warm. Just think that animals slaughtered for meat should be killed as humanely as possible.

Basically, the animals are not stunned before slaughter (same with Jewish practices). That strikes me as pretty inhumane. Go on YouTube & check out some of the practices filmed in halal slaughterhouses. I'm pretty sure you will see my point of view afterwards, mate.

[Sid Pervcat]

Why should it be "humane"? Our ancestors didn't think about that when they were mullering mammoths with clubs!

Halal is no more inhumane than any other method.

As a sheep said recently.... You try to stroke me in a field
Then go home and eat me as your meal..

[warmleatherette]

McDonalds has been struggling for a number of years as subway has grown rapidly in the U.K. And Europe.

Something that I find utterly bewildering.

I have never been to a Subway since they announced that all their meat is halal slaughtered.

I'm no animal activist (far from it), but halal slaughter seems to me to be utterly cruel & inhumane.

Yeah a bolt through the head is a much nicer way to die...

It's quicker than slitting a throat, warm

If you're really worried about animal welfare stop eating them, anything else is hypocrisy.

I stated earlier that I'm not THAT worried, warm. Just think that animals slaughtered for meat should be killed as humanely as possible.

Go on YouTube & check out some of the practices filmed in halal slaughterhouses. I'm pretty sure you will see my point of view afterwards, mate.

Go and look at "any" slaughterhouse practices, there's no difference as far as the animals are concerned, which is why I dont, I just don't pretend I care, I don't.

[Steve Hunt]

Halal is no more inhumane than any other method.

Really?

The RSPCA disagree with you, as do I:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... t8OIASCrbQ

[Steve Hunt]

Go and look at "any" slaughterhouse practices, there's no difference as far as the animals are concerned, which is why I dont, I just don't pretend I care, I don't.

Fair enough, warm.

You clearly won't take my word for it. But I'm not a lone voice.
The RSPCA also consider it inhumane, concluding that:

- The level of restraint of conscious animals required for slaughter without pre-stunning was far greater than for conventional slaughter.

- A large cut made across the neck of a conscious animal would “result in very significant pain and distress” before the animal loses consciousness (around 5 to 7 seconds for sheep, 22 to 40 seconds for adult cattle).

- “Slaughter without pre-stunning is unacceptable and that the Government should repeal the current exemption”. Until then any animal not stunned before slaughter should receive an immediate post-cut stun.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... t8OIASCrbQ

[Sid Pervcat]

Halal is no more inhumane than any other method.

Really?

The RSPCA disagree with you, as do I:

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... t8OIASCrbQ

84% of halal abbatoirs stun before cutting. If not stunned, a cut results in 5 seconds of pain ..

Hardly barbaric....
Personally if it tastes good I'm not bothered how it was killed.. The halal meat I get locally is really good and much better than the crap in tescos!

[m4rkb]

Frankly when I'm ravenous and could eat a horse, I don't want some do gooder lecturing me about obesity or short changing me on my portions because of some fat cunt who has no self control. Especially when I'm not obese myself.

These days I spend more time reading ingredients in food than actually buying them. The sight of a load of unnecessary sugar rammed in results in whatever product it is being put back on the shelf. Any meat I cook or buy needs to be fully cooked to let all the unwanted fat drain out. You'd never catch me buying one of those Donna Kebabs where you can see the fat streaming down the side when its cooking on the spit.

Sadly many people are too fucking stupid for their own good and can't even feed themselves properly or even understand the principle. Many have kids that suffer for it as well.

[Steve Hunt]

Fair enough, Sid.

But you don't know for sure if the meat you eat has been stunned before slaughter, do you?

As I say, I don't want to enter into a great debate about it. It's just my own personal point of view.
I don't particularly want to eat meet that may have suffered "significant pain and distress" before slaughter when that need not be the case if slaughtered conventionally.

That's all I am saying.

[warmleatherette]

Go and look at "any" slaughterhouse practices, there's no difference as far as the animals are concerned, which is why I dont, I just don't pretend I care, I don't.

Fair enough, warm.

You clearly won't take my word for it. But I'm not a lone voice.
The RSPCA also consider it inhumane, concluding that:

- The level of restraint of conscious animals required for slaughter without pre-stunning was far greater than for conventional slaughter.

- A large cut made across the neck of a conscious animal would “result in very significant pain and distress” before the animal loses consciousness (around 5 to 7 seconds for sheep, 22 to 40 seconds for adult cattle).

- “Slaughter without pre-stunning is unacceptable and that the Government should repeal the current exemption”. Until then any animal not stunned before slaughter should receive an immediate post-cut stun.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... t8OIASCrbQ

You're making the mistake of thinking "animal welfare" only counts for the last few seconds of its life, the whole meat industry is barbaric and cruel, making a stand against halal slaughter is pretty insignificant in the scheme of thing but like I said, I just don't care, it's food.

[theleader82]

At least least with beef you know cows have quite a good life , wondering about the fields chewing the cud. Not like those battery hens kept in cages.

[Steve Hunt]

Go and look at "any" slaughterhouse practices, there's no difference as far as the animals are concerned, which is why I dont, I just don't pretend I care, I don't.

Fair enough, warm.

You clearly won't take my word for it. But I'm not a lone voice.
The RSPCA also consider it inhumane, concluding that:

- The level of restraint of conscious animals required for slaughter without pre-stunning was far greater than for conventional slaughter.

- A large cut made across the neck of a conscious animal would “result in very significant pain and distress” before the animal loses consciousness (around 5 to 7 seconds for sheep, 22 to 40 seconds for adult cattle).

- “Slaughter without pre-stunning is unacceptable and that the Government should repeal the current exemption”. Until then any animal not stunned before slaughter should receive an immediate post-cut stun.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... t8OIASCrbQ

You're making the mistake of thinking "animal welfare" only counts for the last few seconds of its life, the whole meat industry is barbaric and cruel, making a stand against halal slaughter is pretty insignificant in the scheme of thing but like I said, I just don't care, it's food.

I'm not arguing with you, warm. And yes, I am never going to be a veggie, so that does make my a hypocrite.

It is a purely personal decision.

Mine is based on the findings of the likes of the RSPCA.

That's all I am saying.