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Steve Hunt wrote:Francois Fillon will win it. Whilst not advocating Frexit, Fillon is currently a staunch Eurosceptic - though no doubt the Establishment will "get to him" should he win.
In other words they are given angry French voters the option of a Soft-Right as opposed to a Hard-Right.
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AlcoholBrazil wrote:
Steve Hunt wrote:Francois Fillon will win it. Whilst not advocating Frexit, Fillon is currently a staunch Eurosceptic - though no doubt the Establishment will "get to him" should he win.
In other words they are given angry French voters the option of a Soft-Right as opposed to a Hard-Right.
He wants to take votes from Le Front National which seems to have worked well in the US and Brexit this year.
Please don't hoover up all the bollocks for yourself. Leave some for others.

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kancutlawns wrote:The French are nasty cunts anyway who had their tummies tickled and rolled over for the Nazis in the Second World War. I suppose the libtards and bogus Syrian asylum seekers were to blame for that too weren't they?
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The French got by in the Vichy years by doing a roaring industry in brothels, cafes and Burlesque shows.
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The French pretty much like everyone else in the Western world are sick and tired of all the lies and nonsense.

Whomever they vote in it will be someone against this pro-immigration for everyone type of stance that all Western leaders have enforced the last 8 years or so.

And no you left wing/liberal types that does not make anyone a racist. And anyhow that word has lost it's power encase you all haven't noticed. Because everyday people are just so sick of being called it when most aren't in the TRUE meaning of the word.

That is why everyone/thing that the left-wing/liberal types want to win is losing. Bubble brains getting their bubbles burst but still can't quite work out why.

Everyone is sick of it. It is called self-preservation.
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Rossco wrote:The French pretty much like everyone else in the Western world are sick and tired of all the lies and nonsense.

Whomever they vote in it will be someone against this pro-immigration for everyone type of stance that all Western leaders have enforced the last 8 years or so.

And no you left wing/liberal types that does not make anyone a racist. And anyhow that word has lost it's power encase you all haven't noticed. Because everyday people are just so sick of being called it when most aren't in the TRUE meaning of the word.

That is why everyone/thing that the left-wing/liberal types want to win is losing. Bubble brains getting their bubbles burst but still can't quite work out why.

Everyone is sick of it. It is called self-preservation.
Voting for, or hoping for the rise of fascism does. Especially when the choice is likely to be between a fascist candidate & somebody who would be regarded as a Thatcherite Conservative in the U.K.

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Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:The French pretty much like everyone else in the Western world are sick and tired of all the lies and nonsense.

Whomever they vote in it will be someone against this pro-immigration for everyone type of stance that all Western leaders have enforced the last 8 years or so.

And no you left wing/liberal types that does not make anyone a racist. And anyhow that word has lost it's power encase you all haven't noticed. Because everyday people are just so sick of being called it when most aren't in the TRUE meaning of the word.

That is why everyone/thing that the left-wing/liberal types want to win is losing. Bubble brains getting their bubbles burst but still can't quite work out why.

Everyone is sick of it. It is called self-preservation.
Voting for, or hoping for the rise of fascism does. Especially when the choice is likely to be between a fascist candidate & somebody who would be regarded as a Thatcherite Conservative in the U.K.
Eh???

So if the French vote for Fillon they are racists, are they?
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Steve Hunt wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:The French pretty much like everyone else in the Western world are sick and tired of all the lies and nonsense.

Whomever they vote in it will be someone against this pro-immigration for everyone type of stance that all Western leaders have enforced the last 8 years or so.

And no you left wing/liberal types that does not make anyone a racist. And anyhow that word has lost it's power encase you all haven't noticed. Because everyday people are just so sick of being called it when most aren't in the TRUE meaning of the word.

That is why everyone/thing that the left-wing/liberal types want to win is losing. Bubble brains getting their bubbles burst but still can't quite work out why.

Everyone is sick of it. It is called self-preservation.
Voting for, or hoping for the rise of fascism does. Especially when the choice is likely to be between a fascist candidate & somebody who would be regarded as a Thatcherite Conservative in the U.K.
Eh???

So if the French vote for Fillon they are racists, are they?
No. I'm saying you can't claim voting for Marine Le Pen is just a protest against the looney liberals when the other choice is a Thatcherite Conservative.

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Ralph wrote:
Steve Hunt wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:The French pretty much like everyone else in the Western world are sick and tired of all the lies and nonsense.

Whomever they vote in it will be someone against this pro-immigration for everyone type of stance that all Western leaders have enforced the last 8 years or so.

And no you left wing/liberal types that does not make anyone a racist. And anyhow that word has lost it's power encase you all haven't noticed. Because everyday people are just so sick of being called it when most aren't in the TRUE meaning of the word.

That is why everyone/thing that the left-wing/liberal types want to win is losing. Bubble brains getting their bubbles burst but still can't quite work out why.

Everyone is sick of it. It is called self-preservation.
Voting for, or hoping for the rise of fascism does. Especially when the choice is likely to be between a fascist candidate & somebody who would be regarded as a Thatcherite Conservative in the U.K.
Eh???

So if the French vote for Fillon they are racists, are they?
No. I'm saying you can't claim voting for Marine Le Pen is just a protest against the looney liberals when the other choice is a Thatcherite Conservative.
The left will be fielding candidates, Ralph.
There will be a socialist primary election in January, following Hollande's decision to stand down.

To state that the French will only have two choices is wholly incorrect.
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Steve Hunt wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Steve Hunt wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:The French pretty much like everyone else in the Western world are sick and tired of all the lies and nonsense.

Whomever they vote in it will be someone against this pro-immigration for everyone type of stance that all Western leaders have enforced the last 8 years or so.

And no you left wing/liberal types that does not make anyone a racist. And anyhow that word has lost it's power encase you all haven't noticed. Because everyday people are just so sick of being called it when most aren't in the TRUE meaning of the word.

That is why everyone/thing that the left-wing/liberal types want to win is losing. Bubble brains getting their bubbles burst but still can't quite work out why.

Everyone is sick of it. It is called self-preservation.
Voting for, or hoping for the rise of fascism does. Especially when the choice is likely to be between a fascist candidate & somebody who would be regarded as a Thatcherite Conservative in the U.K.
Eh???

So if the French vote for Fillon they are racists, are they?
No. I'm saying you can't claim voting for Marine Le Pen is just a protest against the looney liberals when the other choice is a Thatcherite Conservative.
The left will be fielding candidates, Ralph.
There will be a socialist primary election in January, following Hollande's decision to stand down.

To state that the French will only have two choices is wholly incorrect.
No I understand, but the final round will likely be between a Thatcherite Conservative & a fascist - That's the choice the French people will probably have to make at some point?

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Seemly you don't understand at all Ralph. Never mind. Bubbleheads are having a hard time grasping what is going on.
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Rossco wrote:Seemly you don't understand at all Ralph. Never mind. Bubbleheads are having a hard time grasping what is going on.
We can't all be intellectual giants like you Rossco.

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Ralph wrote:
No I understand, but the final round will likely be between a Thatcherite Conservative & a fascist - That's the choice the French people will probably have to make at some point?
I can think of worse choices. e.g. between a Communist and a leftie liberal.
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Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:Seemly you don't understand at all Ralph. Never mind. Bubbleheads are having a hard time grasping what is going on.
We can't all be intellectual giants like you Rossco.
Clearly not, in your case for sure!
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Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:Seemly you don't understand at all Ralph. Never mind. Bubbleheads are having a hard time grasping what is going on.
We can't all be intellectual giants like you Rossco.
Clearly not, in your case for sure!
Why are you celebrating the rise in fascism Rossco. If they came to power here you'd be labelled a digenerate & put in camp day one.

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Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:Seemly you don't understand at all Ralph. Never mind. Bubbleheads are having a hard time grasping what is going on.
We can't all be intellectual giants like you Rossco.
Clearly not, in your case for sure!
Why are you celebrating the rise in fascism Rossco. If they came to power here you'd be labelled a digenerate & put in camp day one.
I wonder if you know how ridiculous it sounds to older people when you call everyone fascists Ralph ? It's very insulting and offensive to many too, although because they know the outcome of banning words and opinions they don't scream about it, and they're not in the groups of very precious people who may not be criticised or contradicted anyway.
I'm tempted to try and describe the horrors to you, but I shall just say that it's more than deporting Mexican murderers or refusing entry to children's toilets for transvestites.
In fact, it is socialism which attempts to dictate and bully , and ban freedoms in a manner which is frighteningly reminiscent of those people.
You don't like Rossco talking about God because, like those people, you want to replace God with the State. You invite people to look to the State for their salvation, but it will not be found there, and it is when the almighty state is found unable and unwilling to keep its promises that the evil and cruelty begins.
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Royal24s wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:Seemly you don't understand at all Ralph. Never mind. Bubbleheads are having a hard time grasping what is going on.
We can't all be intellectual giants like you Rossco.
Clearly not, in your case for sure!
Why are you celebrating the rise in fascism Rossco. If they came to power here you'd be labelled a digenerate & put in camp day one.
I wonder if you know how ridiculous it sounds to older people when you call everyone fascists Ralph ? It's very insulting and offensive to many too, although because they know the outcome of banning words and opinions they don't scream about it, and they're not in the groups of very precious people who may not be criticised or contradicted anyway.
I'm tempted to try and describe the horrors to you, but I shall just say that it's more than deporting Mexican murderers or refusing entry to children's toilets for transvestites.
In fact, it is socialism which attempts to dictate and bully , and ban freedoms in a manner which is frighteningly reminiscent of those people.
You don't like Rossco talking about God because, like those people, you want to replace God with the State. You invite people to look to the State for their salvation, but it will not be found there, and it is when the almighty state is found unable and unwilling to keep its promises that the evil and cruelty begins.
Not everyone - Marine Le Pen. Are you suggesting she & her party (Front National)aren't
fascist?

Don't know what the rest of your post is about. Just a collection of straw man arguments as far as I can tell.

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Ralph wrote:Don't know what the rest of your post is about. Just a collection of straw man arguments as far as I can tell.
Exactly. He was found out some time ago… :rolleyes:
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Ralph wrote:
Royal24s wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:Seemly you don't understand at all Ralph. Never mind. Bubbleheads are having a hard time grasping what is going on.
We can't all be intellectual giants like you Rossco.
Clearly not, in your case for sure!
Why are you celebrating the rise in fascism Rossco. If they came to power here you'd be labelled a digenerate & put in camp day one.
I wonder if you know how ridiculous it sounds to older people when you call everyone fascists Ralph ? It's very insulting and offensive to many too, although because they know the outcome of banning words and opinions they don't scream about it, and they're not in the groups of very precious people who may not be criticised or contradicted anyway.
I'm tempted to try and describe the horrors to you, but I shall just say that it's more than deporting Mexican murderers or refusing entry to children's toilets for transvestites.
In fact, it is socialism which attempts to dictate and bully , and ban freedoms in a manner which is frighteningly reminiscent of those people.
You don't like Rossco talking about God because, like those people, you want to replace God with the State. You invite people to look to the State for their salvation, but it will not be found there, and it is when the almighty state is found unable and unwilling to keep its promises that the evil and cruelty begins.
Not everyone - Marine Le Pen. Are you suggesting she & her party (Front National)aren't
fascist?

Don't know what the rest of your post is about. Just a collection of straw man arguments as far as I can tell.

She says she isn't.
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Roy Twing wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Royal24s wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:
Ralph wrote:
Rossco wrote:Seemly you don't understand at all Ralph. Never mind. Bubbleheads are having a hard time grasping what is going on.
We can't all be intellectual giants like you Rossco.
Clearly not, in your case for sure!
Why are you celebrating the rise in fascism Rossco. If they came to power here you'd be labelled a digenerate & put in camp day one.
I wonder if you know how ridiculous it sounds to older people when you call everyone fascists Ralph ? It's very insulting and offensive to many too, although because they know the outcome of banning words and opinions they don't scream about it, and they're not in the groups of very precious people who may not be criticised or contradicted anyway.
I'm tempted to try and describe the horrors to you, but I shall just say that it's more than deporting Mexican murderers or refusing entry to children's toilets for transvestites.
In fact, it is socialism which attempts to dictate and bully , and ban freedoms in a manner which is frighteningly reminiscent of those people.
You don't like Rossco talking about God because, like those people, you want to replace God with the State. You invite people to look to the State for their salvation, but it will not be found there, and it is when the almighty state is found unable and unwilling to keep its promises that the evil and cruelty begins.
Not everyone - Marine Le Pen. Are you suggesting she & her party (Front National)aren't
fascist?

Don't know what the rest of your post is about. Just a collection of straw man arguments as far as I can tell.

She says she isn't.
She went to court to argue she wasn't a fascist - & lost.

I can understand why, for political reasons, she doesn't want people labelling her a fascist - that doesn't mean it's unfair.

Just take some time to read about her & the history of her party. It's as bad as it gets. Like the BNP with more ideological zeal.

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No, it's not as bad as it gets. Gassing millions of people, shaving the sides of your head and marching into other peoples countries and imposing a reign of terror and death is as bad as it gets.
Having opinions you don't like is less serious.
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subsub wrote:
Ralph wrote:Don't know what the rest of your post is about. Just a collection of straw man arguments as far as I can tell.
Exactly. He was found out some time ago… :rolleyes:
Found out in what, you ........silly person ?
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And by whom - you ?
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Royal24s wrote:No, it's not as bad as it gets. Gassing millions of people, shaving the sides of your head and marching into other peoples countries and imposing a reign of terror and death is as bad as it gets.
Having opinions you don't like is less serious.
The party she leads was formed by people who were sympathetic to the Nazis & the Vichy government.

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Royal24s wrote:
subsub wrote:
Ralph wrote:Don't know what the rest of your post is about. Just a collection of straw man arguments as far as I can tell.
Exactly. He was found out some time ago… :rolleyes:
Found out in what, you ........silly person ?
Found out in the sense that you've essentially written the same post 100 times.
And you've also fallen into the trap of thinking that the longer the post, the more credible it is.
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