rorymac wrote:I agree with Royals that there ought to be no restriction on religion in the Presidential thread .. it's also really heartening to see the tolerance generally at least on there for such posts imo. So fair play to this forum !
On this thread I'd like to ask folks how they found God eg Rossco
There are spiritual principles around love, behaviour and tolerance that when practised always gives the strongest sense of a power greater than any human. Well folks find their own proof and some even have an understanding of it. It can be real easy to get offended and defensive when that is dismissed and ridiculed but allowing yourself to react to that is directly opposed to that faith in the first place. Hard but true.
I don't get why a devout Christian would care less who is elected anywhere or whether Britain is in or out of the EU though. If it's all playing out as prophecised what does it even matter ? I mean it makes no sense to me why straightforward 'socialism' is described by Royals as 'Satanic' .. that's like mind boggling and ridiculous.
And I was talking to a Muslim fella and he actually said that it's better to be atheist than to believe Jesus is the son of Allah. And he said to never joke about Allah .. well like fuck off. The problem is when folks start to believe they KNOW more than it is humanly possible. In this life there will always be more huge massive questions than answers .. eg ask any real practising spiritual person of any persuasion what/who God is and they plain don't know. Just that there is a force and that it is without a doubt benign .. even I know that. Most of them can't bring themselves to say that mind cos they're only human and it's not natural to mind appearing daft. It's why it's a piece of piss to be an atheist .. although it's also very incorrect imho .. heh !
You don't have to believe in any God to recognise the globalist agenda and the corporate media as inherently plain malevolent or that New Labour and the BBC were/are anything but socialist .. or that political correctness is a fucking disgrace .. or that Communism can be corrupted by cunts. And it's important to see where religion gets stuff right.
But I don't get it's significance re the US election in all fairness. If you believe in the bible and a Christian God why is it important that Donald Trump is elected ?
So how did folks come to believe is what I'm interested in is all tbf. Not that it's any of my business but if you don't ask and that.
Long story. But I didn't find God. God found me. And I know all holy-rollers say that. I have heard it many times since going to church. Which I don't do as much now but when feel the need I go.
Not that I have anything against them finding God. That is good, just encase it comes across like that. It is hard to type out Rory and to understand and make sense as it was so out there. Easier to tell in person TBH. But they say oh yeah God found me to. I say yeah so you weren't doing anything at all. Like I wasn't doing anything. Well were you reading a Bible, I ask? Friends or family who were talking to you about God? Going to a church? Then they say yeah in one of these forms or something close. And then I say well I wasn't looking at all. I was happy enough with my wee life, not that it was much but it was mine. I didn't even own a Bible. Last time at church was years ago....a kid in primary school we are talking here. None of my friends believe in God. Some were like me and just, well I have no proof so until I do...nah not for me beeky.
It was very supernatural. In the dictionary meaning of that word. Was a woman involved that I was going out with, and it happened in her house over months. Started slow, built up and at times took the piss. Even talked down the phone once while we were talking it got that bold. By that stage even I was OK, this is something....but at the start it was bangs, bumps, something walking about upstairs when no one there. That type of thing. I put it down to pipes, neighbours etc etc, cause I am a man don't you know woman now stop jumping at shadows and bring that fine little ass over here. Women seem to be more open minded to the spirit world. Maybe because us men are more physical by nature or how we have been conditioned. Whichever way you want to look at it.
Anyhow she tried to get psychics in as women do. But most couldn't make it, or something had come up when they were meant to come. I did say to her. These lot are avoiding you like a bird avoids me that isn't interested. They didn't want to know. Can't blame them TBH. Cause it wasn't a ghost that she thought and I kind of had to agree with because shit was getting just to weird. And this was after months.
Anyhow in the end it made it clear what it was, it was a demon. Yes they are real. How they work, why they choose to go after some and not others....I can't answer. So don't ask. It was breaking her down. And for a 23 year old woman she was tough. Tougher than most but still a wee looker. She has been through a lot and it made her tough. But she wa breaking down in the end. The last night. It was taking the piss. A lot of that night is to private. But in the end I had enough. she always said don't get angry as it will feed of that, and thaqt made/makes sense. But I had enough. So dickhead here in his wisdom begs the thing for a fight, make itself physical so we can go at it and stop acting like a wee bitch. But of course it didn't or couldn't or whatever. It is an entity/spirit and pure evil after all. I won't go into what it done for me to know this as that is to much and to personal. But I knew once it done what it done, it was evil. No if, buts or doubts.
So I went down stairs for a smoke. Raging. And sitting on her sofa so angry but feeling so useless at the same time because it isn't like a fella you can say. OK lets go and it will no matter how big or bad. That option isn't there. So I was raging. Trust me on that. Then this peace, warmth came over me like you would not believe. And I was 38 at the time. And I know myself. I know who I am. Have sat in solitary in prison by myself and my thoughts and feeling 23 hours a day with nothing else for company....so I know me. That wasn't off me. No way, no how. It wasn't off anything of this world as I knew it either. I knew it was God. How did I know? Well once you know, you know....because you know.
After that I asked him for him to help her. He did. And I knew there is a God and he is real.
That is how I came about. And the good thing is their is another involved and she knows too
If had of been alone then I might doubt at times because that is what this world would have. And who rules this world would have. But no getting away from that. I got it strong, I got it real and I wasn't looking for it.
Does it change a man? What do you think Rory? It changes a man. Never see things the same after that. I am dealing, I am learning. I am good some days. I am weak some days. I get it back to front some days. But I trust and love God with all of my heart. How could I not. He stepped in and took care of that thing that I couldn't. And if I don't make the cut then all I can do is thank him. And that I well when I meet him.
So the God haters have a lot to mock there Rory. Or just the ones who want to mock me....hey whatever. Like I care what humans think after that....I'll let you work that out yourself dude. But I would say this. Did I ever talk about God before? I don't believe so. No reason to. And would I make this up and bring it here. If so why would I do that? What would be my gain.
You asked me, I have told you. Some bits left out but like I said there was another involved and she is a believer now as well. And like me at that time.....far from God.
