A General Thread About Christianity

[Carlos J]

As the 'US Presidential Race' thread is continously being sidetracked, feel free to debate all aspects of Christianity here. As per, debate the post not the poster and play the ball not the man. Other clichés are available.

[rorymac]

In my experience folks who are close to God just know stuff and kind of whisper it : They have given up fighting everyone and everything. They are right sized folks who could not give a shit about politics.
You have to observe them really because they say very little .. usually they do good quietly in a small way and expect fuckall in return ever !

All the Christians I know are pedantic generally .. they over complicate simple stuff and spend hours analysing a simple fucking paragraph in the bible. It wasn't meant to be a brain teaser .. it fucking said 'Jesus called two locals to him' .. that's what it fucking means .. he got off his fucking donkey in the fucking village and called a couple of herberts over to him .. that's what fucking happened end of.

Listen up .. he said 'those who came last will be let in first' .. summink like that. It's a piece of fucking piss .. IF you were keeping your head down and NOT bursting your bollocks to be given the keys of the kingdom you WILL be first. Are folks fucking stupid ???

That's what it fucking means !!!!

Fucking near death experiences, Jehovahs witnesses .. all that malarky
You were lost and now you are found .. do not be a cunt all your life.

That's about it !

[Fug1]

I have no problems with people believing in any faith as a guideline for how to live your life.

The trouble with pretty much all religions is they have been manipulated to suit adgendas.

On balance, I feel the concept of religion is something that causes more harm than good.

I have a degree of spirituality about me, but I don't really need to believe in anything.

[Roddy]

I have no problems with people believing in any faith as a guideline for how to live your life.

The trouble with pretty much all religions is they have been manipulated to suit adgendas.

On balance, I feel the concept of religion is something that causes more harm than good.

I have a degree of spirituality about me, but I don't really need to believe in anything.

Do you love Jesus?

[Roddy]

Roy Twing,Royles 24 and Hillamn serve a fourin' master serving a magic carpenter in the sky that's Vatican approved that is..

[Royal24s]

As the 'US Presidential Race' thread is continously being sidetracked, feel free to debate all aspects of Christianity here. As per, debate the post not the poster and play the ball not the man. Other clichés are available.

Are you saying that mention of Christianity is to be restricted to this thread ?
As we can already see , it will be used to attack Christianity rather than discuss it.
Religious beliefs , or their absence, are not and cannot be separated from other beliefs or opinions since they are the basis of what informs these opinions.
Christianity is certainly a very big part of the Presidential race, so why should it be excluded from the debate here ?
Christians will tend to vote for Donald Trump because they oppose abortion and support free will, and both these policies and opinions are based are based in the Christian religion.
Wilileaks has revealed that Hitlerry wants to destroy the Catholic Church.
The subject of Christianity is therefore a direct part of and issue in, the election.

Will you be restricting other groups , such as Moslems or socialists, to their own thread ?

[Kowalski]

Of course It's all a load of bronze age nonsense written by goat herders but most Christians I know are decent enough people.

Very gullible though, obviously.

[Royal24s]

Of course It's all a load of bronze age nonsense written by goat herders but most Christians I know are decent enough people.

Very gullible though, obviously.

I'm sure that you and others are quite delighted to have your own thread to take shots at Christians.
If you were to make a list of devout Christians through history and a list of atheists , you would perhaps see which side of the line most IQ points fall.
Why don't you pop down to your local mosque and insult them instead ?
I think I know the answer.

[Roddy]

Of course It's all a load of bronze age nonsense written by goat herders but most Christians I know are decent enough people.

Very gullible though, obviously.

I'm sure that you and others are quite delighted to have your own thread to take shots at Christians.
If you were to make a list of devout Christians through history and a list of atheists , you would perhaps see which side of the line most IQ points fall.
Why don't you pop down to your local mosque and insult them instead ?
I think I know the answer.

For the name of the big yin stop blunderbussing all over the place.

I'm sure,If You,why don't,i think..

WAA,WAA ,WAA stop crying like a baby.

[Roddy]

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[Kowalski]

Of course It's all a load of bronze age nonsense written by goat herders but most Christians I know are decent enough people.

Very gullible though, obviously.

I'm sure that you and others are quite delighted to have your own thread to take shots at Christians.
If you were to make a list of devout Christians through history and a list of atheists , you would perhaps see which side of the line most IQ points fall.
Why don't you pop down to your local mosque and insult them instead ?
I think I know the answer.

Being an atheist didn't go down too well back in the old days, Christians weren't as tolerant back then.

And don't get me started on Islam, that is the devil's religion.

[Roddy]

Fundamentalism vs Apostasy.

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[Fug1]

I have no problems with people believing in any faith as a guideline for how to live your life.

The trouble with pretty much all religions is they have been manipulated to suit adgendas.

On balance, I feel the concept of religion is something that causes more harm than good.

I have a degree of spirituality about me, but I don't really need to believe in anything.

Do you love Jesus?

Not really.

This may sound trucullent, but I would be far more inclined to believe in older religions from around the world than what we have developed "Jesus" into.

Which is my point.

I have a level of faith, but not what others tell me, or expect from me.

My faith is mine,it's not something I can use to justify the things I do or don't do; it's not something that I feel I can use as a get out of jail free card. if there is something else then I will be o.k.

Sumarian texts are interesting.

But because I don't necessarily believe in other peoples interpretation of Jesus, I hope doesn't mean I'm condemed to an afterlife of hell.

I have lived my life so far pretty good.


I guess what I am trying to say is I don't need something that has been maniuplated and sculpted to tell me what is right or wrong.

People over many centuries are determined to have a level of control over me and you.

I control me.

[Roddy]

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[rorymac]

I agree with Royals that there ought to be no restriction on religion in the Presidential thread .. it's also really heartening to see the tolerance generally at least on there for such posts imo. So fair play to this forum !
On this thread I'd like to ask folks how they found God eg Rossco

There are spiritual principles around love, behaviour and tolerance that when practised always gives the strongest sense of a power greater than any human. Well folks find their own proof and some even have an understanding of it. It can be real easy to get offended and defensive when that is dismissed and ridiculed but allowing yourself to react to that is directly opposed to that faith in the first place. Hard but true.

I don't get why a devout Christian would care less who is elected anywhere or whether Britain is in or out of the EU though. If it's all playing out as prophecised what does it even matter ? I mean it makes no sense to me why straightforward 'socialism' is described by Royals as 'Satanic' .. that's like mind boggling and ridiculous.

And I was talking to a Muslim fella and he actually said that it's better to be atheist than to believe Jesus is the son of Allah. And he said to never joke about Allah .. well like fuck off. The problem is when folks start to believe they KNOW more than it is humanly possible. In this life there will always be more huge massive questions than answers .. eg ask any real practising spiritual person of any persuasion what/who God is and they plain don't know. Just that there is a force and that it is without a doubt benign .. even I know that. Most of them can't bring themselves to say that mind cos they're only human and it's not natural to mind appearing daft. It's why it's a piece of piss to be an atheist .. although it's also very incorrect imho .. heh !

You don't have to believe in any God to recognise the globalist agenda and the corporate media as inherently plain malevolent or that New Labour and the BBC were/are anything but socialist .. or that political correctness is a fucking disgrace .. or that Communism can be corrupted by cunts. And it's important to see where religion gets stuff right.
But I don't get it's significance re the US election in all fairness. If you believe in the bible and a Christian God why is it important that Donald Trump is elected ?

So how did folks come to believe is what I'm interested in is all tbf. Not that it's any of my business but if you don't ask and that.

[Fug1]

I agree with Royals that there ought to be no restriction on religion in the Presidential thread .. it's also really heartening to see the tolerance generally at least on there for such posts imo. So fair play to this forum !
On this thread I'd like to ask folks how they found God eg Rossco

There are spiritual principles around love, behaviour and tolerance that when practised always gives the strongest sense of a power greater than any human. Well folks find their own proof and some even have an understanding of it. It can be real easy to get offended and defensive when that is dismissed and ridiculed but allowing yourself to react to that is directly opposed to that faith in the first place. Hard but true.

I don't get why a devout Christian would care less who is elected anywhere or whether Britain is in or out of the EU though. If it's all playing out as prophecised what does it even matter ? I mean it makes no sense to me why straightforward 'socialism' is described by Royals as 'Satanic' .. that's like mind boggling and ridiculous.

And I was talking to a Muslim fella and he actually said that it's better to be atheist than to believe Jesus is the son of Allah. And he said to never joke about Allah .. well like fuck off. The problem is when folks start to believe they KNOW more than it is humanly possible. In this life there will always be more huge massive questions than answers .. eg ask any real practising spiritual person of any persuasion what/who God is and they plain don't know. Just that there is a force and that it is without a doubt benign .. even I know that. Most of them can't bring themselves to say that mind cos they're only human and it's not natural to mind appearing daft. It's why it's a piece of piss to be an atheist .. although it's also very incorrect imho .. heh !

You don't have to believe in any God to recognise the globalist agenda and the corporate media as inherently plain malevolent or that New Labour and the BBC were/are anything but socialist .. or that political correctness is a fucking disgrace .. or that Communism can be corrupted by cunts. And it's important to see where religion gets stuff right.
But I don't get it's significance re the US election in all fairness. If you believe in the bible and a Christian God why is it important that Donald Trump is elected ?

So how did folks come to believe is what I'm interested in is all tbf. Not that it's any of my business but if you don't ask and that.

I have to agree, for the most part the globalist elite are trying to control everybody, I'm not entirely sure that these peoples are working hand in hand with major religions, but I think the means to the end is what ultimately counts, so significant parallels can be drawn in the way the globalist gain revenue (tax) and historically how religions gain revenue (tax).

I really don't think you can draw any major differences between modern religions such as Christianity and it's branches and Islam and its various configurations.

Both are born out of extreme violence, and both are designed to make a few people very rich.

If you wanna follow that kinda stuff, that is totally up to you.

[Fug1]

I'll ask you this.

If you was an alien visiting this Earth for the first time, and you was looking to find the most successful and sociable living things on this planet, I would suggest the last things they would choose to get in touch with would be human beings; after all, we are the only ones here that have decided we can kill what the fuck we like, when we want, I'd suggest to you we (humans) are the fuckin scum of this world that has fucked it up for all the millions of other creatures living here.

[m4 colin]

I have met some real arseholes who professed to be Christians but also some Truly golden people
who really walked the walk. I have a feeling Christianity was much better and kinder before the council of Nicaea. Closer to the true Christ. Roman politics were no less ghastly in Constantine's time than the Julian era, and anyone who dared argue didnt even make it out of the building.I'm also quite enamored of the Celtic church Patrick, Columba and others they seemed to have walked the walk too . I wonder what Jesus would do with the incumbent False Pope were he to return

[Carlos J]

As the 'US Presidential Race' thread is continously being sidetracked, feel free to debate all aspects of Christianity here. As per, debate the post not the poster and play the ball not the man. Other clichés are available.

Are you saying that mention of Christianity is to be restricted to this thread ?
As we can already see , it will be used to attack Christianity rather than discuss it.
Religious beliefs , or their absence, are not and cannot be separated from other beliefs or opinions since they are the basis of what informs these opinions.
Christianity is certainly a very big part of the Presidential race, so why should it be excluded from the debate here ?
Christians will tend to vote for Donald Trump because they oppose abortion and support free will, and both these policies and opinions are based are based in the Christian religion.
Wilileaks has revealed that Hitlerry wants to destroy the Catholic Church.
The subject of Christianity is therefore a direct part of and issue in, the election.

Will you be restricting other groups , such as Moslems or socialists, to their own thread ?

I agree with Royals that there ought to be no restriction on religion in the Presidential thread .. it's also really heartening to see the tolerance generally at least on there for such posts imo. So fair play to this forum !
On this thread I'd like to ask folks how they found God eg Rossco[...]

Royals and Rory. No, there is no restriction on mentioning Chrisitanity in other threads including the 'US Presidential Race' thread. In fact the 'Religion of Peace' thread was started because there were numerous duplicate threads about Islam, so it was better to all be in one place.

And I know about religion and the US election, hence mentioning it in my posts in that thread and posts about Christianity pertaining to the election are fine. We seemed to wander off into a general debate about Christianity and despite asking to keep it election based and possibly start a new Chrisitanity thread, it carried on. So, I thought, as no one else would, why not create a new thread which can carry on long after the election thread fades: https://www.talkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.p ... 0#p1006619

And as my name is brought in, what did I post a week ago on page 117: https://www.talkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.p ... 0#p1003621

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And though I respect my old friend Rossco and his beliefs and Royals in his, and yes religion will play a part in voting for POTUS, maybe some comments are going a tad off topic about their views of Christianity in a thread about the US Election. Of course I will not stop them, but maybe a better suggestion is for another thread about Christianity. We have had them before with Deep Sea Isopod so no reason why not again, could possibly bump some if I look.

Just a ponderer.

This is the 'US Presidential Race' thread. Religion and its effects on the election are fine, but we've had too much on general Christianity, so have started a new topic: https://www.talkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=25479

So nuff said here, carry on there.

As for it being a thread attacking Christianity, have a look at the 'Religion of Peace' thread. It's debate and discussion, people have opinions and if they are being cunts about it, it will be noted. Threads are only as good or bad as the posters' posts.

[carcinogen]

The best fuck I've ever had was with a born-again Christian lady. So, I'm all for it. In my limited experience, Christian women are repressed, but once they let go of their inhibitions they are bloody lunatics in the bedroom.

That brings me onto another confession, so please don't judge. As a bored experiment I signed up to a Christians Only dating site and set up a fake profile. I can honestly tell you, I got a number of incredibly attractive, sexy looking intelligent, well bred, financially secure women take an interest. Obviously I couldn't follow any of them up as in reality I am agnostic, broke, and although physically attractive, terribly troubled mentally.

God Bless you all.

[rorymac]

That would never have stopped me Carc !!

Also .. !!there is!! a solution to your mental troubles
I know it well ok

[Rantan Zero]

Of course It's all a load of bronze age nonsense written by goat herders but most Christians I know are decent enough people.

Very gullible though, obviously.

I'm sure that you and others are quite delighted to have your own thread to take shots at Christians.
If you were to make a list of devout Christians through history and a list of atheists , you would perhaps see which side of the line most IQ points fall.
Why don't you pop down to your local mosque and insult them instead ?
I think I know the answer.

If you need some book written thousands of years ago to tell you how to live today then you're lacking something.

[deisegirl]

I generally don't mind religious people. Which is just as well living in this country. The basic tenets of "love thy neighbour" "do unto others as you would like done unto you" are sound enough and something to try and practice in daily life.

When they pipe up on things like abortion and homosexuality with passages from the Bible I tend to just zone out. I do think they should be allowed to say it though. A lot of religious types were getting shouted down during the same sex marriage referendum. Delighted that the referendum passed by such a margin but the debate around it was quite obnoxious.

Luckily enough we don't have too many of them fire and brimstone bible bashers in my neck of the woods so maybe I'd not feel so charitable if we did..

[Rossco]

Believers are believers.

Non-believers are are non-believers.

It isn't something to debate IMO because both won't see what they other is saying on main points. Because of the obvious difference. And when it comes to belief in God it isn't an opinion or a point of view for believers. So that is where it will all fall down. How I see it anyhow.

I can only go from my personal experiences and I do know that when I was a non-believer my attitude was if it brings you peace then good luck to you but I have never experienced anything to make me believe. That changed.

But I never and will never get atheists. They seem to have a hate for God on some level. But yet they argue hard about something they don't even believe in. Strange lot. Always thought that even before I was a believer. Best friend is what you would call a hard core atheist. Fun talk at times no doubt but we have learnt to just respect each others views and not go down that route. We are both fiery at times so prob for the best. And I have told him the truth. Up to him what he chooses as that is his soul, his life and his path. I have done my bit. And who am I to tell anyone outside of the truth, how to live.

[Rossco]

But also let me make it clear that if I feel the need to bring up God or the Devil in the US election thread. It will be done.

If don't like that then ban me. As I will do it if I feel I need to. Simple as.

Don't like it, don't read it. Free will kids. I would never denounce God and I know demonic influence when I see it. And that bitch Clinton stinks of it.

And yes.....we are allowed to hate evil. For evil is the opposite of good and the light.

A Time for Everything under Gods heavens.