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First point.

With all the windy weather starting with the turning of the seasons and the fences and edges blowing especially in the countryside, what about the protection they serve against pests like foxes? Being damaged, broken etc.

Second point.

Is there a correlation between fox hunting and meat quality? With the first point in mind, to counter the ban without hunting farmers may have to tighten areas where there livestock can wander exercise and the space needed etc and with that the healthiness of the chicken/lamb will be affected. I say this because last Christmas our Christmas meal was spoilt because the Turkey was off and we had to chuck it out. Was this due to the how healthy the Turkey was before slaughter? Has this affected how good lamb is?

The two points are interesting.

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With all the other shit going on in the world, who cares?
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ccreds wrote:First point.

With all the windy weather starting with the turning of the seasons and the fences and edges blowing especially in the countryside, what about the protection they serve against pests like foxes? Being damaged, broken etc.

Second point.

Is there a correlation between fox hunting and meat quality? With the first point in mind, to counter the ban without hunting farmers may have to tighten areas where there livestock can wander exercise and the space needed etc and with that the healthiness of the chicken/lamb will be affected. I say this because last Christmas our Christmas meal was spoilt because the Turkey was off and we had to chuck it out. Was this due to the how healthy the Turkey was before slaughter? Has this affected how good lamb is?

The two points are interesting.
No, I'm all for the freedom to hunt, but the hounds break more fences than wind by a long way, and you don't generally keep turkeys in fields. Foxes occasionally take lambs, but not grown sheep, and lambing is in the spring not autumn.
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Tony Blair banning hunting as a kickback to the unions for the miners strike, and a way of getting back at thatcher, didn't really improve my quality of life.
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beingsoblase wrote:With all the other shit going on in the world, who cares?

Adolf Hitler would have cared.

A renowned animal lover and anti cruelty activist, the first law he passed when becoming Fuhrer was to ban fox hunting.
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ccreds wrote:First point.

With all the windy weather starting with the turning of the seasons and the fences and edges blowing especially in the countryside, what about the protection they serve against pests like foxes? Being damaged, broken etc.

Second point.

Is there a correlation between fox hunting and meat quality? With the first point in mind, to counter the ban without hunting farmers may have to tighten areas where there livestock can wander exercise and the space needed etc and with that the healthiness of the chicken/lamb will be affected. I say this because last Christmas our Christmas meal was spoilt because the Turkey was off and we had to chuck it out. Was this due to the how healthy the Turkey was before slaughter? Has this affected how good lamb is?

The two points are interesting.

No, not enough foxes would be killed by the hunt to impact upon meat quality or supply.

And there are actually more foxes being killed now by shooting and gassing than there were before the class warriors humanised the countryside's most vicious little predator and vented their envy on those of us whom enjoyed a day in the field.

And I tell you this ccreds.....banning hunting was the worst thing that ever happened to the wild fox.

They were husbanded to perfection and the hunt only ever caught the weak and the old....the young, fit and healthy foxes got to live and keep the species strong.

And least the old or diseased fox got a quick death when the hounds caught him.

Nowadays if the shooter only wings a fox, and the healthy are shot as well as the infirm, he limps away and bleeds out agonisingly over a period of days.
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Fox hunting , as well as all hunting , is for blood thirsty , cold hearted bastards .

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Salem wrote:Fox hunting , as well as all hunting , is for blood thirsty , cold hearted bastards .

Just my humble opinion of course :)

Adolf Hitler would very enthusiastically second that opinion, Salem :)
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Petingo wrote: And I tell you this ccreds.....banning hunting was the worst thing that ever happened to the wild fox.

They were husbanded to perfection and the hunt only ever caught the weak and the old....the young, fit and healthy foxes got to live and keep the species strong.

And least the old or diseased fox got a quick death when the hounds caught him.

Nowadays if the shooter only wings a fox, and the healthy are shot as well as the infirm, he limps away and bleeds out agonisingly over a period of days.

Don't have a really strong position on this, but I am inclined to agree with Ol' Pet.
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Petingo wrote:
ccreds wrote:First point.

With all the windy weather starting with the turning of the seasons and the fences and edges blowing especially in the countryside, what about the protection they serve against pests like foxes? Being damaged, broken etc.

Second point.

Is there a correlation between fox hunting and meat quality? With the first point in mind, to counter the ban without hunting farmers may have to tighten areas where there livestock can wander exercise and the space needed etc and with that the healthiness of the chicken/lamb will be affected. I say this because last Christmas our Christmas meal was spoilt because the Turkey was off and we had to chuck it out. Was this due to the how healthy the Turkey was before slaughter? Has this affected how good lamb is?

The two points are interesting.

No, not enough foxes would be killed by the hunt to impact upon meat quality or supply.

And there are actually more foxes being killed now by shooting and gassing than there were before the class warriors humanised the countryside's most vicious little predator and vented their envy on those of us whom enjoyed a day in the field.

And I tell you this ccreds.....banning hunting was the worst thing that ever happened to the wild fox.

They were husbanded to perfection and the hunt only ever caught the weak and the old....the young, fit and healthy foxes got to live and keep the species strong.

And least the old or diseased fox got a quick death when the hounds caught him.

Nowadays if the shooter only wings a fox, and the healthy are shot as well as the infirm, he limps away and bleeds out agonisingly over a period of days.

Very well put indeed.
If I were going to address the subject again, I'd say pretty much the same. You've identified the salient points and put them forward in a manner which is completely convincing to the objective mind.
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I do not approve of foxhunting and if I owned any land I would not allow the hunt on it. However in my opinion within reasonable limits, what a man does on his own land is his business and certainly not the Governments.
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Hunting an animal "for the craic" or a "jolly day out". No thanks.
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Royal24s wrote:
Petingo wrote:
ccreds wrote:First point.

With all the windy weather starting with the turning of the seasons and the fences and edges blowing especially in the countryside, what about the protection they serve against pests like foxes? Being damaged, broken etc.

Second point.

Is there a correlation between fox hunting and meat quality? With the first point in mind, to counter the ban without hunting farmers may have to tighten areas where there livestock can wander exercise and the space needed etc and with that the healthiness of the chicken/lamb will be affected. I say this because last Christmas our Christmas meal was spoilt because the Turkey was off and we had to chuck it out. Was this due to the how healthy the Turkey was before slaughter? Has this affected how good lamb is?

The two points are interesting.

No, not enough foxes would be killed by the hunt to impact upon meat quality or supply.

And there are actually more foxes being killed now by shooting and gassing than there were before the class warriors humanised the countryside's most vicious little predator and vented their envy on those of us whom enjoyed a day in the field.

And I tell you this ccreds.....banning hunting was the worst thing that ever happened to the wild fox.

They were husbanded to perfection and the hunt only ever caught the weak and the old....the young, fit and healthy foxes got to live and keep the species strong.

And least the old or diseased fox got a quick death when the hounds caught him.

Nowadays if the shooter only wings a fox, and the healthy are shot as well as the infirm, he limps away and bleeds out agonisingly over a period of days.

Very well put indeed.
If I were going to address the subject again, I'd say pretty much the same. You've identified the salient points and put them forward in a manner which is completely convincing to the objective mind.
Forgive me for marking your work like some wanker schoolteacher , or Hillman, but even if it sounds patronising I must comment on a post which is of a professional standard.

You did say that you read Michael Connolly didn't you ? If so, you might want to know that there's a new Boshe book out.

Yes, I look forward to reading about Harry's latest adventure.

Though I am one behind as I haven't read The Burning Room yet.

I am big into Dennis Lehane at the moment......his Kenzie and Gennaro series of PI novels is outstanding IMO.
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