Nothings Happening

[Royal24s]

http://youtu.be/wveW9Tw2JKE

Between the wars there was a growing controversy in Europe concerning Germany and the growth of Mr Hitler and his national socialist party.

The clear evidence showed that it was such a dangerous development that it needed to be stopped, and yet there was a strong and influential  lobby making all sorts of excuses as to why we should appease the madman.

According to these arguments, we should not provoke him in case it made him worse, and we should not act against him because this would increase his popularity with the German people and make him more powerful. 
It was frequently argued that most Germans did not support the national socialists and that it would therefore be unacceptable to brand them all as bad by acting, even economically, against that entire country .

Mr. Churchill was called mad or wicked when he warned about the inevitable outcome of pretending that the the threat didn't exist, and all sorts of politicians and academics insisted that the situation would abate if we effectively pretended that it didn't exist.

The appeasers were of various types - people who understandably wanted to avoid another dreadful war at all costs, politicians who needed to justify their own inactivity so far which had allowed it to continue to get worse , and of course those who actually sympathised with what was bound to become the enemy.

Of course, we know the end of this story. If you let someone wage war against you and against the basic elements of democracy and Christianity, then eventually they will beat you and take total power. It came to a point when this could no longer be denied or ignored, but by the time it did , millions had to die in a huge global conflict to put an end to it and preserve our independence , as well as freeing other countries from that terrible tyranny.

Of course, we've learned from that, haven't we ?
I don't know - do you think it's possible that any similar situation could be allowed to go in the same way ? 


http://youtu.be/wveW9Tw2JKE

[AlcoholBrazil]

Even of Adolf emerged from his Argentinian hidey-hole at the age of 127, it would be leaving it late to make a comeback.

[Royal24s]

Even of Adolf emerged from his Argentinian hidey-hole at the age of 127, it would be leaving it late to make a comeback.

Wasn't thinking of that really, but maybe he's posting on this forum I suppose. There are several people still insisting that socialism is a great idea and that individual rights and liberties are an unacceptable obstruction to the primacy of the State.

[m4rkb]

If there's one thing that pisses me off it's people banging on about learning from history and them walking headlong into the same problems immediately after.

If this scenario were playing out now , we'd have human rights lawyers importing Nazis into Britain because of the diversity they offered. All reports of their atrocities would be suppressed and the BBC would be spinning it as a something everyone can;t get enough of.

But that said, I'd say Hitler was easier to negotiate with than our current enemy. There's plenty to suggest he would have preferred to team up with Britain than fight us, but we didn't see it quite the same way.

the way western society is destroying itself at the moment is another lesson in history. I think the Trojan Horse might well be the nearest example we promised never to forget.

[Roy Twing]

If there's one thing that pisses me off it's people banging on about learning from history and them walking headlong into the same problems immediately after.

If this scenario were playing out now , we'd have human rights lawyers importing Nazis into Britain because of the diversity they offered. All reports of their atrocities would be suppressed and the BBC would be spinning it as a something everyone can;t get enough of.

But that said, I'd say Hitler was easier to negotiate with than our current enemy. There's plenty to suggest he would have preferred to team up with Britain than fight us, but we didn't see it quite the same way.

the way western society is destroying itself at the moment is another lesson in history. I think the Trojan Horse might well be the nearest example we promised never to forget.

Always a dodgy stance, mentioning hitler, but I agree, - history will show that he was a lightweight compared to the looming enemy.

[Royal24s]

I think Churchill did say that