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Re: Corbyn

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:29 pm
by Darkyboy
Rossco wrote:Came out today muttering about not knowing student debt being so high.

Silly auld goat.


Perhaps he gets his info. from Dianne Abbott; and we know how she is with numbers. :smt120

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:32 pm
by finchman
Corbyn is a CUNT

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:08 pm
by The Tick
finchman wrote:Theresa May is a CUNT but I enjoy tugging my forelock at her

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:56 pm
by Chris
I like Corbyn.

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:27 am
by sjbarca
Chris wrote:I like Corbyn.
Well he used to ride a motor bike and has been up Dianne Abbott :shock:

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:34 am
by Chris
sjbarca wrote:
Chris wrote:I like Corbyn.
Well he used to ride a motor bike and has been up Dianne Abbott :shock:

Charming as always, barca.

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:38 am
by m4 colin
I'm all for free tuition and even grants as long as its something the country needs.
Meeja studies and drama and the like can fucking pay for it them self

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:24 pm
by Steve Hunt
Jeremy Corbyn has insisted he did not promise to write off all student debt while appealing to young voters during the general election.
During the campaign, the Labour leader said he would "deal with" the issue of graduates burdened with debt since tuition fees rose to £9,000.
He told the BBC he had never promised to abolish all debt as Labour "were unaware of the size of it at the time".


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... Fd_A1iULvA

Yet, only on 9th July:

Labour 'aim' to wipe £100bn student debt - Angela Rayner

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40547740

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 12:48 pm
by kancutlawns
Chris wrote:
sjbarca wrote:
Chris wrote:I like Corbyn.
Well he used to ride a motor bike and has been up Dianne Abbott :shock:

Charming as always, barca.

I don't understand the fixation about Corbyn *possibly* nailing Abbott. Does it really matter? When May became PM, was she subjected to smutty innuendo and jibes about who she may or may not have fucked? Ridiculous.

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:24 pm
by Darkyboy
It seems that Corbyn agrees that wholesale EU migration makes conditions worse for British workers. On the Andrew Marr programme, he said the following about leaving the EU "What there wouldn't be is the wholesale importation of underpaid workers from central Europe in order to destroy conditions, particularly in the construction industry." Link to New Statemsan article:

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/st ... ns-british

I wonder if all his younger admirers realise that this is how he feels about the EU?

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 8:48 pm
by Zambo
It seems that Corbyn can say what he likes whether it's about student debt or immigration or anything else. He seems to have sections of the public under his spell.

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:10 pm
by Darkyboy
Zambo wrote:It seems that Corbyn can say what he likes whether it's about student debt or immigration or anything else. He seems to have sections of the public under his spell.


I think it's the nature of cult leadership. If he said "Let's drink the Kool Aid and have a nice long sleep" they would do it.

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:20 pm
by The Tick
Steve Hunt wrote:Jeremy Corbyn has insisted he did not promise to write off all student debt while appealing to young voters during the general election.
During the campaign, the Labour leader said he would "deal with" the issue of graduates burdened with debt since tuition fees rose to £9,000.
He told the BBC he had never promised to abolish all debt as Labour "were unaware of the size of it at the time".


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... Fd_A1iULvA

Yet, only on 9th July:

Labour 'aim' to wipe £100bn student debt - Angela Rayner

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40547740

If you look beyond the sensationalist headline in the second article you sourced, the labour MP in it said that they would only pursue such a move if it was a feasible. There was no cast iron promise to wipe out all existing student debts

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:37 pm
by Steve Hunt
The Tick wrote:
Steve Hunt wrote:Jeremy Corbyn has insisted he did not promise to write off all student debt while appealing to young voters during the general election.
During the campaign, the Labour leader said he would "deal with" the issue of graduates burdened with debt since tuition fees rose to £9,000.
He told the BBC he had never promised to abolish all debt as Labour "were unaware of the size of it at the time".


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... Fd_A1iULvA

Yet, only on 9th July:

Labour 'aim' to wipe £100bn student debt - Angela Rayner

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40547740

If you look beyond the sensationalist headline in the second article you sourced, the labour MP in it said that they would only pursue such a move if it was a feasible. There was no cast iron promise to wipe out all existing student debts


I don't recall this being voiced in the Labour election campaign, Tick

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:59 pm
by Ralph
The Tick wrote:
Steve Hunt wrote:Jeremy Corbyn has insisted he did not promise to write off all student debt while appealing to young voters during the general election.
During the campaign, the Labour leader said he would "deal with" the issue of graduates burdened with debt since tuition fees rose to £9,000.
He told the BBC he had never promised to abolish all debt as Labour "were unaware of the size of it at the time".


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... Fd_A1iULvA

Yet, only on 9th July:

Labour 'aim' to wipe £100bn student debt - Angela Rayner

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40547740

If you look beyond the sensationalist headline in the second article you sourced, the labour MP in it said that they would only pursue such a move if it was a feasible. There was no cast iron promise to wipe out all existing student debts


Corbyn expected to keep a promise he never made while in oppostion.

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:10 pm
by Steve Hunt
Ralph wrote:
The Tick wrote:
Steve Hunt wrote:Jeremy Corbyn has insisted he did not promise to write off all student debt while appealing to young voters during the general election.
During the campaign, the Labour leader said he would "deal with" the issue of graduates burdened with debt since tuition fees rose to £9,000.
He told the BBC he had never promised to abolish all debt as Labour "were unaware of the size of it at the time".


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... Fd_A1iULvA

Yet, only on 9th July:

Labour 'aim' to wipe £100bn student debt - Angela Rayner

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40547740

If you look beyond the sensationalist headline in the second article you sourced, the labour MP in it said that they would only pursue such a move if it was a feasible. There was no cast iron promise to wipe out all existing student debts


Corbyn expected to keep a promise he never made while in oppostion.



Sorry mate, but I don't know what you mean :?

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:28 pm
by JimmyDee
Darkyboy wrote:It seems that Corbyn agrees that wholesale EU migration makes conditions worse for British workers.


That presumably makes him "a bigot" in Gordon Brown's eyes.
It's amazing, isn't it? Anyone who even dares to mention the word "immigration" is pilloried as a foaming Nazi by the leaders of the Labour party ...... right up until the Tories are in charge and Labour realise that immigration might be a vote-winner.

"We are at war with Eastasia. we have ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia."

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:32 pm
by Ralph
JimmyDee wrote:
Darkyboy wrote:It seems that Corbyn agrees that wholesale EU migration makes conditions worse for British workers.


That presumably makes him "a bigot" in Gordon Brown's eyes.
It's amazing, isn't it? Anyone who even dares to mention the word "immigration" is pilloried as a foaming Nazi by the leaders of the Labour party ...... right up until the Tories are in charge and Labour realise that immigration might be a vote-winner.

"We are at war with Eastasia. we have ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia."


Right up until the Tories are in charge & increase net immigration after promising to massively reduce it. Still get some dumb fuckers defending them though.

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:37 pm
by Steve Hunt
Ralph wrote:
JimmyDee wrote:
Darkyboy wrote:It seems that Corbyn agrees that wholesale EU migration makes conditions worse for British workers.


That presumably makes him "a bigot" in Gordon Brown's eyes.
It's amazing, isn't it? Anyone who even dares to mention the word "immigration" is pilloried as a foaming Nazi by the leaders of the Labour party ...... right up until the Tories are in charge and Labour realise that immigration might be a vote-winner.

"We are at war with Eastasia. we have ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia."


Right up until the Tories are in charge & increase net immigration after promising to massively reduce it. Still get some dumb fuckers defending them though.



Do you not think that immigration played a large part in the Brexit vote?

I do. Sovereignty was my main issue, but I suspect that a lot of people, especially in working class areas, voted in the hope that we would regain control of our borders.

Labour have merely tapped into this sentiment, as have the Tories (who talk tough, but do fuck all - presumably to keep their big business supporters on board)

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:39 pm
by JimmyDee
Ralph wrote:Right up until the Tories are in charge & increase net immigration after promising to massively reduce it.


So immigration is a BAD thing, because the Tories are doing it? Yeah, OK.
It's like "good" AIDS and "bad" AIDS :-)

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:43 pm
by Darkyboy
JimmyDee wrote:
Darkyboy wrote:It seems that Corbyn agrees that wholesale EU migration makes conditions worse for British workers.


That presumably makes him "a bigot" in Gordon Brown's eyes.
It's amazing, isn't it? Anyone who even dares to mention the word "immigration" is pilloried as a foaming Nazi by the leaders of the Labour party ...... right up until the Tories are in charge and Labour realise that immigration might be a vote-winner.

"We are at war with Eastasia. we have ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia."


Labour will promise virtually anything to win votes now. As you say, they think the public will forget being called bigoted, just for mentioning immigration.

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:50 pm
by Ralph
JimmyDee wrote:
Ralph wrote:Right up until the Tories are in charge & increase net immigration after promising to massively reduce it.


So immigration is a BAD thing, because the Tories are doing it? Yeah, OK.
It's like "good" AIDS and "bad" AIDS :-)


Making manifesto commitments to massively reduce immigration to win votes and then doing the opposite is a bad thing.

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 1:56 pm
by Steve Hunt
Ralph wrote:
JimmyDee wrote:
Ralph wrote:Right up until the Tories are in charge & increase net immigration after promising to massively reduce it.


So immigration is a BAD thing, because the Tories are doing it? Yeah, OK.
It's like "good" AIDS and "bad" AIDS :-)


Making manifesto commitments to massively reduce immigration to win votes and then doing the opposite is a bad thing.


Yup, just as bad as this:

Key ally of Jeremy Corbyn caught on video making pledge to wipe off student debts
Jeremy Corbyn was hit by a growing tuition fees crisis today after it emerged that one of his shadow ministers promised before the election that “every existing student will have all their debts wiped off” if Labour gained power.
The Labour leader has been accused of backtracking on scrapping the existing debt of students run up due to tuition fees of up to £9,000-a-year.
Mr Corbyn insists he did not make a promise to axe this debt which is estimated to total more than £100 billion and scrapping it would blow a huge hole in Labour’s financial plans.
However, now an election campaign video has emerged of shadow justice minister Imran Hussain make a firm pledge on student debt.
He said: “Just this morning Jeremy Corbyn has announced that the tuition fees will be abolished straight away from September if there’s a Labour government, and that we will bring back immediately EMA and also that every existing student will have all their debts wiped off.”

Shadow Minister for Public Health Sharon Hodgson also tweeted on June 2: “Jeremy Corbyn: Labour could write off historic student debts| All those in early 20’s with student debt #VoteLabour”


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... lY-8LJnMdg

Labour & Tories - both as bad as each other

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:22 pm
by Ralph
Steve Hunt wrote:
Ralph wrote:
JimmyDee wrote:
Ralph wrote:Right up until the Tories are in charge & increase net immigration after promising to massively reduce it.


So immigration is a BAD thing, because the Tories are doing it? Yeah, OK.
It's like "good" AIDS and "bad" AIDS :-)


Making manifesto commitments to massively reduce immigration to win votes and then doing the opposite is a bad thing.


Yup, just as bad as this:

Key ally of Jeremy Corbyn caught on video making pledge to wipe off student debts
Jeremy Corbyn was hit by a growing tuition fees crisis today after it emerged that one of his shadow ministers promised before the election that “every existing student will have all their debts wiped off” if Labour gained power.
The Labour leader has been accused of backtracking on scrapping the existing debt of students run up due to tuition fees of up to £9,000-a-year.
Mr Corbyn insists he did not make a promise to axe this debt which is estimated to total more than £100 billion and scrapping it would blow a huge hole in Labour’s financial plans.
However, now an election campaign video has emerged of shadow justice minister Imran Hussain make a firm pledge on student debt.
He said: “Just this morning Jeremy Corbyn has announced that the tuition fees will be abolished straight away from September if there’s a Labour government, and that we will bring back immediately EMA and also that every existing student will have all their debts wiped off.”

Shadow Minister for Public Health Sharon Hodgson also tweeted on June 2: “Jeremy Corbyn: Labour could write off historic student debts| All those in early 20’s with student debt #VoteLabour”


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... lY-8LJnMdg

Labour & Tories - both as bad as each other


The video doesn't live up to the headline. Labour's manifesto commitment was to scrap tuition fees not write off debt.

Re: Corbyn

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:29 pm
by Steve Hunt
Ralph wrote:
Steve Hunt wrote:
Ralph wrote:
JimmyDee wrote:
Ralph wrote:Right up until the Tories are in charge & increase net immigration after promising to massively reduce it.


So immigration is a BAD thing, because the Tories are doing it? Yeah, OK.
It's like "good" AIDS and "bad" AIDS :-)


Making manifesto commitments to massively reduce immigration to win votes and then doing the opposite is a bad thing.


Yup, just as bad as this:

Key ally of Jeremy Corbyn caught on video making pledge to wipe off student debts
Jeremy Corbyn was hit by a growing tuition fees crisis today after it emerged that one of his shadow ministers promised before the election that “every existing student will have all their debts wiped off” if Labour gained power.
The Labour leader has been accused of backtracking on scrapping the existing debt of students run up due to tuition fees of up to £9,000-a-year.
Mr Corbyn insists he did not make a promise to axe this debt which is estimated to total more than £100 billion and scrapping it would blow a huge hole in Labour’s financial plans.
However, now an election campaign video has emerged of shadow justice minister Imran Hussain make a firm pledge on student debt.
He said: “Just this morning Jeremy Corbyn has announced that the tuition fees will be abolished straight away from September if there’s a Labour government, and that we will bring back immediately EMA and also that every existing student will have all their debts wiped off.”

Shadow Minister for Public Health Sharon Hodgson also tweeted on June 2: “Jeremy Corbyn: Labour could write off historic student debts| All those in early 20’s with student debt #VoteLabour”


https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j ... lY-8LJnMdg

Labour & Tories - both as bad as each other


The video doesn't live up to the headline. Labour's manifesto commitment was to scrap tuition fees not write off debt.


Maybe, but when a shadow minister says "every existing student will have all their debts wiped off", what are the public, especially students, supposed to think?