Corbyn

[The Ghost of Alex Higgins]

They should be chosen on basis of hairstyle

[shabbado]

Can I point out to anyone still insisting the EU is a cesspit of "no democracy"..

What we are facing is the leader of this country being chosen by his/her own party, without reference to the electorate..and then he/she picks the ministers as he/she wishes.

And this is the paragon of democracy we uphold..

Did you have the same reservations when the ol' war criminal Tone handed the reins of the country to his good pal Gordon ?

[finchman]

He is off again talking about 'Reaganomics' and the 1970s............What a fucking dildo.

[kancutlawns]

He is off again talking about 'Reaganomics' and the 1970s............What a fucking dildo.

He's fucking right though isn't he?

[finchman]

He is off again talking about 'Reaganomics' and the 1970s............What a fucking dildo.

He's fucking right though isn't he?

Reagan was a fucking cowboy in the 70s, so no, he is talking out of his arse.

[Hillman avenger]

Can I point out to anyone still insisting the EU is a cesspit of "no democracy"..

What we are facing is the leader of this country being chosen by his/her own party, without reference to the electorate..and then he/she picks the ministers as he/she wishes.

And this is the paragon of democracy we uphold..

Did you have the same reservations when the ol' war criminal Tone handed the reins of the country to his good pal Gordon ?

No
But people on here did.
They claimed it was an outrage.
Even though it was clear at the previous general election.

[Hillman avenger]

Can I point out to anyone still insisting the EU is a cesspit of "no democracy"..

What we are facing is the leader of this country being chosen by his/her own party, without reference to the electorate..and then he/she picks the ministers as he/she wishes.

And this is the paragon of democracy we uphold..

One small point on that Hillman, the ministers are MPs elected by the people.

600 odd of them are elected to be MPs for their constituency.

Nobody has a say in, for example, Hunt wrecking the NHS

[Holden Mcgroyne]

An election should be called immediately.

If only bottler Brown had gone for it in 2007, history could have been so different.

[kevin04]

Good ol' Jeremy. Hope he hangs around for a bit longer with Chilcott looming.

So the Laybur plan is to usher Corbyn out due to being 'unelectable' and bring in Angela Eagle?

[shabbado]

Good ol' Jeremy. Hope he hangs around for a bit longer with Chilcott looming.

So the Laybur plan is to usher Corbyn out due to being 'unelectable' and bring in Angela Eagle?

Nah...Eagle is fucked. Voted for the Iraq War and against any inquiry into it.

Hopefully Chilcott crucifies the warmongers.

[AlcoholBrazil]

I like Corbyn hanging around as it shows the Blairites for the back-stabbing self-serving Judas's that they are.

[Steve Hunt]

If only bottler Brown had gone for it in 2007, history could have been so different.

Very true.

Things would be even worse.

[Steve Hunt]

Can I point out to anyone still insisting the EU is a cesspit of "no democracy"..

What we are facing is the leader of this country being chosen by his/her own party, without reference to the electorate..and then he/she picks the ministers as he/she wishes.

And this is the paragon of democracy we uphold..

One small point on that Hillman, the ministers are MPs elected by the people.

600 odd of them are elected to be MPs for their constituency.

Nobody has a say in, for example, Hunt wrecking the NHS

Three points, Hillman.

As much as I despise them, the Tories were elected on a back of a manifesto.

The public can boot them out in any 5 year period.

Neither of the above applies to the EU Commission

[Steve Hunt]

Nah...Eagle is fucked. Voted for the Iraq War and against any inquiry into it.

Did she?

If so, her credibility should be zero after Chilcott reports next week. Mind you, given that I suspect it will be a whitewash, I may well be wrong.

[Steve Hunt]

Can I point out to anyone still insisting the EU is a cesspit of "no democracy"..

What we are facing is the leader of this country being chosen by his/her own party, without reference to the electorate..and then he/she picks the ministers as he/she wishes.

I'd imagine that whoever wins the Tory leadership (probably May ) will call an election pretty soon afterwards. With Labour in such chaos, it would be mad not to.

[Steve Hunt]

He is off again talking about 'Reaganomics' and the 1970s............What a fucking dildo.

He's fucking right though isn't he?

As an aside, my Daughter is studying the Cold War in GCSE history. She is revising for end of year exams and earlier this week asked me to test her on the subject, based on the revision notes she has made.

It is amazing, but the roles of Thatcher, Gorbachev & Reagan in bringing about it's end are completely written out.

According to modern day teaching, the Cold War ended due to the crippling cost of USSR's occupation of Afghanistan and Solidarnosk uprising in Poland.

I have emailed her history teacher yesterday asking why the key roles Gorbachev, Thatcher & Reagan have been overlooked. I have not had a reply yet.

[Zambo]

Can I point out to anyone still insisting the EU is a cesspit of "no democracy"..

What we are facing is the leader of this country being chosen by his/her own party, without reference to the electorate..and then he/she picks the ministers as he/she wishes.

And this is the paragon of democracy we uphold..

One small point on that Hillman, the ministers are MPs elected by the people.

600 odd of them are elected to be MPs for their constituency.

Nobody has a say in, for example, Hunt wrecking the NHS

Having the public elect ministers is just plain daft, but let it be on the PMs head if he fucks up like he has with Hunt. If Cameron hadn't have resigned, he would have definitely led the Tories to an election defeat largely on that fact.

Then Hunt as the temerity to stand for leader. You couldn't make it up.

[shabbado]

Nah...Eagle is fucked. Voted for the Iraq War and against any inquiry into it.

Did she?

If so, her credibility should be zero after Chilcott reports next week. Mind you, given that I suspect it will be a whitewash, I may well be wrong.

Yeah. She's an arch Blairite. Reading through her voting record she appears to be to the right of that Tory lunatic Jeremy Hunt (no relation, I hope)

https://www.opendemocracy.net/ian-sincl ... gela-eagle

On mobile so can't copy and paste the best bits from the above.

Safe to say that the Labour 'coup' us a fucking disaster if the best they can't put forward to oppose Jezza is Eagle.

Once Chillcot is out then she and others of her ilk who voted for the Iraq war should, In a political sense, be finished.

[Steve Hunt]

Once Chillcot is out then she and others of her ilk who voted for the Iraq war should, In a political sense, be finished.

You are assuming that Chilcott won't be a whitewash then, Shabs?

[shabbado]

Once Chillcot is out then she and others of her ilk who voted for the Iraq war should, In a political sense, be finished.

You are assuming that Chilcott won't be a whitewash then, Shabs?

If the leaks that's we've had so far then no, I don't think it will.

[kancutlawns]

Once Chillcot is out then she and others of her ilk who voted for the Iraq war should, In a political sense, be finished.

You are assuming that Chilcott won't be a whitewash then, Shabs?

Unlikely Steve. Since last month when there were leaks about Blair about to be heavily criticised in it, he's reportedly been consulting his lawyers and advisors to launch a robust defence on it's publication. The report's going to be quite damning about the government, Whitehall and key individuals like Blair. Interestingly enough though, Alistair Campbell's going to escape censure. Make of that what you will.

[Steve Hunt]

I actually feel a bit sorry for Corbyn.

He's a decent man, albeit misguided. He doesn't deserve to be treated like this, especially by his own colleagues.

As for Cameron telling him to go, what the fuck has it got to do with him? Nothing at all. He should butt out.

[Zambo]

I actually feel a bit sorry for Corbyn.

He's a decent man, albeit misguided. He doesn't deserve to be treated like this, especially by his own colleagues.

As for Cameron telling him to go, what the fuck has it got to do with him? Nothing at all. He should butt out.

Cameron was livid because he thinks Corbyn is one of the reasons he lost the referendum. You could see the hatred in his eyes when he said it.

[Steve Hunt]

I actually feel a bit sorry for Corbyn.

He's a decent man, albeit misguided. He doesn't deserve to be treated like this, especially by his own colleagues.

As for Cameron telling him to go, what the fuck has it got to do with him? Nothing at all. He should butt out.

Cameron was livid because he thinks Corbyn is one of the reasons he lost the referendum. You could see the hatred in his eyes when he said it.

....and for that reason I will always have a soft spot for old Jezza

[The Tick]

We can agree on one thing Steve.

If you want Brexit, vote Corbyn!