Multiculturalism - part 3

[m4rkb]

Well I'm concerned for my village. They are building 3000 houses on the edge of it, which means at least another 7000 people, and another 3500/4000 vehicles, without having the infrastructure to cope. It's not just here either. There may not be a serious over-population for the UK at the moment, but it's coming. School places, insufficient GP surgeries/doctors, crowded A&E's, aging population, net migration/immigration. It all adds up, and the pressure is on all public services.

If you are going to manage the type of population increase that we have seen since 2010, we should have been planning the infrastructure a decade ago, but that is the general problem with most of the public sector they are always is re-act mode after the event, and would need to look up pro-active to find out what it means.

I'd be more concerned about the 'social mobility' consequences from what I've seen of it. Every development has to allocate a certain amount of the built to social housing. What that means in practice is they can dump any cunt on your doorstep who isn't quite as advantaged as the ones able to buy. And with modern 'equality' , especially the type advocated by those labourites intent on rubbing diversity in your face knowing full well you don't want it, you could end up with any rag, tag and bobtail unemployed bunch of anybodies foisted on you village and woe betide anyone who objects. It's the ducking stool for them.

They built a huge one in Bournville some time back and gave four bunches of asylum seekers brand new properties. No fucking chance of course of the backward inhabitants ever getting a job and one lot totally trashed the place they had before. Then there are the canal developments in Brum where the same applies and you have people spending 300K on a house only to find next door are another bunch of unemployed wasters in social housing with ten unruly kids and no one speaks English or understands the rules on keeping the place tidy.

There's another one going up by me and I'm expecting the same shit to be moved in after the previous two not far away suffered the same.

I don't want to sound negative but you'd better start brushing up on your Somali, Arabic and Zulu.

[Zambo]

Talking about social housing, around 5 miles from me there is another estate going up, and they are shipping people down from Brum to dwell in it. No idea if that is a common practice, but my guess would be yes. I can see it turning into The Wood mark 2.

[m4rkb]

People obviously don't embrace multiculturalism. That's why there has been massive white flight from places like Birmingham , London and Manchester. The police have to spend a fortune using translators due to the high number of foreign criminals. We can't deport foreign rapists and murderers due to human rights laws.

I do.

You've only got to go sixty miles up the road from round here to Stoke and it's another culture altogether. Peas and fucking gravy, No scallops. Calling everyone duck even when they're a bloke. Go further and it's even worse.

I'm in favour of multiculturalism, starting with mixing British people with other British people from totally different backgrounds. What I don't want is some backward one I'm told is an equal because of some socialist claptrap.

[m4rkb]

Talking about social housing, around 5 miles from me there is another estate going up, and they are shipping people down from Brum to dwell in it. No idea if that is a common practice, but my guess would be yes. I can see it turning into The Wood mark 2.

I bet that a relief for you then

[Zambo]

Talking about social housing, around 5 miles from me there is another estate going up, and they are shipping people down from Brum to dwell in it. No idea if that is a common practice, but my guess would be yes. I can see it turning into The Wood mark 2.

I bet that a relief for you then

House is on the market

[m4rkb]

Then here's a useful link ready for your homecoming>

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for ... -Wood.html

It's all gone posh there now. Back in the day there was fuck all to do there as a youth bar wander the streets shagging other birds wandering the streets with nothing to do. So I'm told

[Zambo]

Blimey that looks a bit different to when I was up there last.

[Roy Twing]

People obviously don't embrace multiculturalism. That's why there has been massive white flight from places like Birmingham , London and Manchester. The police have to spend a fortune using translators due to the high number of foreign criminals. We can't deport foreign rapists and murderers due to human rights laws.

So many just do not understand the difference between multiculturalism and a multi racial society.

[m4rkb]

Fuck me you'll be telling me you didn't know they've knocked all the flats down on the Vale next

[Roy Twing]

Fuck me you'll be telling me you didn't know they've knocked all the flats down on the Vale next

I didn't know that.
I lived in Hawker house/towers/whatever it was called, back in the 70s fo a few weeks - has that gone?

[m4rkb]

Fuck me you'll be telling me you didn't know they've knocked all the flats down on the Vale next

I didn't know that.
I lived in Hawker house/towers/whatever it was called, back in the 70s fo a few weeks - has that gone?

Flat as a pancake now I'm afraid.

[Zambo]

What chance of integration if they can't integrate with each other.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... illed.html

[Hillman avenger]

Roy has failed to spot the last 20 years.

Japan's economic model couldn't deal with globalisation. In fact it should be a lesson for those who think that shutting the door on the world outside is a viable strategy.

Are you advocating trade here or the wholesale import of masses of immigrants to rectify Japans woes?

Neither would be the way out of their problem.

[Hillman avenger]

Well I'm concerned for my village. They are building 3000 houses on the edge of it, which means at least another 7000 people, and another 3500/4000 vehicles, without having the infrastructure to cope. It's not just here either. There may not be a serious over-population for the UK at the moment, but it's coming. School places, insufficient GP surgeries/doctors, crowded A&E's, aging population, net migration/immigration. It all adds up, and the pressure is on all public services.

If you are going to manage the type of population increase that we have seen since 2010, we should have been planning the infrastructure a decade ago, but that is the general problem with most of the public sector they are always is re-act mode after the event, and would need to look up pro-active to find out what it means.

Lets get this in perspective.

1. I can appreciate that having a development like that feels threatening.
2. An extremely small part of whoever moves there will be immigrants. We keep mixing up immigration and housing. We have a severe housing shortage because we don't have enough houses; and the prices of the ones there are reflect that. That all goes back to the demise of social housing and the gift it gave to the banks to lend like crazy to people who in former times would not be in that market. Another effect was to push up the returns on rent for private landlords. The recent promise to sell more of them is lunacy.
3. Yes, they are supposed to provide "affordable housing" ( not the same thing as social housing). In practice most developers ignore the requirement, and they get away with it. It's reckoned that under 10% of the "affordable housing" that should have been provided in the last five years has actually been provided.

[Hillman avenger]

People obviously don't embrace multiculturalism. That's why there has been massive white flight from places like Birmingham , London and Manchester.
There has been a tendency for people to move out of cities, but that has been the case for 100 years; have a look at London and "Metroland". They end up being replaced by people who don't have the money to make any choices. You are confusing cause and effect.

The police have to spend a fortune using translators due to the high number of foreign criminals.

The justice system is spending LESS on interpreters now, since Grayling fucked up that service and people dropped out of the work.


We can't deport foreign rapists and murderers due to human rights laws.
We can and we do.

[Roy Twing]

English is now a foreign language in London, says Terence Stamp

"It’s very sad how few English people there are in London now"
"When I grew up in East London everyone seemed to speak English, and now you can barely get by speaking our own language."


Who can disagree.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Stamp.html

[AlcoholBrazil]

That's rich from someone who wanted to kill Superman and rule the world, and he didn't even come from this planet.

[Roy Twing]

That's rich from someone who wanted to kill Superman and rule the world, and he didn't even come from this planet.

At least zod made the effort to learn our language

[theleader82]

With increasing white flight London most major English cities will become increasingly foreign. There are now more mosques in London than Istanbul. Most English people that work in the City of London wouldn't dream of living there, as they wouldn't want to send their children to school there . Japanese tourists are confused when they dont see english people in London. They could be in Delhi for all they know.

[The Tick]

With increasing white flight London most major English cities will become increasingly foreign. There are now more mosques in London than Istanbul. Most English people that work in the City of London wouldn't dream of living there, as they wouldn't want to send their children to school there . Japanese tourists are confused when they dont see english people in London. They could be in Delhi for all they know.

The white population of inner London is growing, with more families settling in. We are actually seeing black and brown flight.

You need to come out of your 80's time warp.

[The Tick]

English is now a foreign language in London, says Terence Stamp

"It’s very sad how few English people there are in London now"
"When I grew up in East London everyone seemed to speak English, and now you can barely get by speaking our own language."


Who can disagree.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Stamp.html

He must have hated all the Yiddish being spoken in Whitechapel and the Italian in Shoreditch and Clerkenwell while growing up.

London is a global city, which looks beyond the confines of the goldfish bowl it inhabits. Part of that package is to have a global make up.

[Hillman avenger]

With increasing white flight London most major English cities will become increasingly foreign. There are now more mosques in London than Istanbul. Most English people that work in the City of London wouldn't dream of living there, as they wouldn't want to send their children to school there . Japanese tourists are confused when they dont see english people in London. They could be in Delhi for all they know.

As ever, nonsense.

People by and large move out because of the cost and aggravation of city-centre living. As for people who work in the City of London, living there would be a theoretical choice because it would cost way beyond the means of millions of people.

[Lord Notin Kwestion]

English is now a foreign language in London, says Terence Stamp

"It’s very sad how few English people there are in London now"
"When I grew up in East London everyone seemed to speak English, and now you can barely get by speaking our own language."


Who can disagree.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Stamp.html

More importantly in the daily mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/ar ... Abbey.html

[kancutlawns]

With increasing white flight London most major English cities will become increasingly foreign. There are now more mosques in London than Istanbul. Most English people that work in the City of London wouldn't dream of living there, as they wouldn't want to send their children to school there . Japanese tourists are confused when they dont see english people in London. They could be in Delhi for all they know.

No, there are not. There are 2,944 mosques in Istanbul. No more than a few hundred in central London. Most people wouldn't dream of living in London because of the astronomical property prices, rates and limited size. That's why people live in the 'burbs. Your last two sentences smack of complete pig ignorance from someone who has the incapacity to carry on bollocks soundbites beyond a few sentences. Utterly ridiculous. Why the fuck are you talking about the Japs, have you done a straw poll?

[Roy Twing]

English is now a foreign language in London, says Terence Stamp

"It’s very sad how few English people there are in London now"
"When I grew up in East London everyone seemed to speak English, and now you can barely get by speaking our own language."


Who can disagree.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... Stamp.html

He must have hated all the Yiddish being spoken in Whitechapel and the Italian in Shoreditch and Clerkenwell while growing up.

London is a global city, which looks beyond the confines of the goldfish bowl it inhabits. Part of that package is to have a global make up.

There've always been enclaves in major cities tick, - the scale of the transformation to encompass the majority of our capital is a different universe altogether.
It is this inability to recognise the difference that much of the blame can be placed.
It is a pity that so few in the public eye (and therefore having a voice) highlight the elephant in the room.