Thank you for your response (only taken a fortnight) on this topic.Hillman avenger wrote:You want an answer.Roy Twing wrote:Mr K - why don't you bother read posts properly?kancutlawns wrote:Ah Roy in loaded question shocker. You claimed first that Hillman never condemned terror attacks, then when you were rebuffed you said that he didn't condemn MUSLIM terror attacks and MUSLIM street grooming. Now you were knocked back again, you've come out with that old Tourette's bollocks about instances of street grooming. Do you struggle to come out with any unique material or do you think the rest of us as are so stupid that we'll agree with your one eyed, thick eared propaganda. You should be ashamed of yourself by accusing a fellow poster of being a terror sympathiser and then when you don't get the reply you want you chip away trying to trip him up.Roy Twing wrote:Do you acknowledge that the overwhelming majority (if not all) 'on-street grooming' instances were carried out by those from a muslim background, whether or not they are/were practising muslims and whether or not they are/were kebab shop owners or taxi drivers?Hillman avenger wrote:I oppose ANY terrorist attacks, and ANY on-street grooming gangs. If they are muslim, so be it. The problem you and I have is that you insist their religion ( assuming they in practice have any) is relevant, and I contest that. Not least because it then implies guilt widely across the muslim community, who have in the main been as disgusted as we have.Roy Twing wrote:Have you attacked MUSLIM terrorist attacks Hillman?Hillman avenger wrote:I have repeatedly attacked terrorist attacks, whoever creates them.
Or MUSLIM on-street grooming gangs, Hillman?
Unfortunately this mindset has legitimised the formation of deeply evil right-wing groups such as I posted about a few days ago. Foolishly or otherwise these people have been encouraged by the leave vote to think that 17.5 million people agree with them.Which is ironic as EU membership has little bearing on the number of muslim/asian people here, still less those born here.
As for other posts, my points ages ago about kebab shops and taxi drivers have been wilfully or otherwise "misunderstood"..the simple fact was that most of the grooming in Rotherham was organised by people who frequented late-night kebab shops and who in many cases also drove private hire taxis, and the point was that to exercise control in those respects would do a lot to decrease opportunities for these people. I'm sure it wasn't noticed here but since that scandal the local council has withdrawn licences for certain kebab shop owners to operate and stopped 20 people operating as private hire drivers.
Yes or no would be nice.
I did NOT complain that hillman never condemned terror attacks. I continue only to complain that he does not acknowledge that muslims are responsible for most terror attacks and on-street grooming instances.
He continues to avoid answering.
Please do me favour and read things properly, so as to avoid you looking foolish.
By the way, - while we're on the subject - do you acknowledge that most terror attacks and on-street grooming instances are perpetrated by those of a muslim background? Yes or no would be nice.
Then read it.
I condemn ALL terrorist attacks, whoever commits them.
That's what I said before.
I don't have any problem recognising that much of the terrorism is committed by people who think they are furthering their religion, Islam.
I also condemn the grooming, rape, etc.
Where I disagree with you is your insistence that the grooming and child abuse is related to the religion of the offenders. You have never shown a proper, causal link between the two. You have also, to the best of my knowledge, never shown any concern for the distress of the victims or in how to prevent it in future.
On the latter point, as you have been plugging away at it for years, it seems you have an obsession with the muslim faith.
I was about to post that I appreciate and thank you for your eventual acknowledgement that those of a muslim background commit most of the acts of terrorism and on-street grooming, but I must have either misread your reply or you changed it to ‘much’ rather than ‘most’.
So no real admission there then.
I was also about to respond with similar candour to your other points, but as you haven’t really budged from the usual mealy-mouthed stance there’s not much point is there.
