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Theresa May prepares ground for Conservative leadership challenge by hiring Sky News' Joey Jones as spokesman
Theresa May has prepared the ground for a challenge for the Conservative leadership by hiring a former senior political journalist as her official spokesman, The Telegraph can reveal.

The Home Secretary has appointed Joey Jones, who until last year was Sky News deputy political editor, has her official spokesman, significantly boosting her backroom team.

It comes amid speculation that David Cameron could resign as Prime Minister and Tory leader if he loses the European Union referendum in six weeks’ time.


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Steve Hunt wrote:Theresa May prepares ground for Conservative leadership challenge by hiring Sky News' Joey Jones as spokesman
Theresa May has prepared the ground for a challenge for the Conservative leadership by hiring a former senior political journalist as her official spokesman, The Telegraph can reveal.

The Home Secretary has appointed Joey Jones, who until last year was Sky News deputy political editor, has her official spokesman, significantly boosting her backroom team.

It comes amid speculation that David Cameron could resign as Prime Minister and Tory leader if he loses the European Union referendum in six weeks’ time.


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Joey Deacon more like
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May should have insisted on this this years ago. Private Sector companies have been stripping layers of managers for 20 and 30 years. They are just not needed. Where I used to work, we had three tiers of line managers before director level. Why the fuck to you need a third line manager just to go to a few meetings and then spend most of the rest of the time playing golf.

Save loads of money by having a Public Sector clear out, and this is a good start.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... costs.html
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Zambo wrote:May should have insisted on this this years ago. Private Sector companies have been stripping layers of managers for 20 and 30 years. They are just not needed. Where I used to work, we had three tiers of line managers before director level. Why the fuck to you need a third line manager just to go to a few meetings and then spend most of the rest of the time playing golf.

Save loads of money by having a Public Sector clear out, and this is a good start.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... costs.html
Perhaps you have missed the news for the last ten years or so?
There's hardly a day goes by without some news breaking about yet another private sector company delivering public services being in the shit and/or having their contracts withdrawn? G4S has had 6 secure institution contracts taken off it, Capita and the rest are in trouble all over the place. Then there's the healthcare company being sued in the southwest for causing blindness in patients undergoing cataract treatment...the company that has utterly failed in military recruitment...
You cling to this notion that public sector=inefficiency, and private sector= efficiency, when there are examples of both across both sectors.
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wtf has that lot got to do with stripping waste and management tiers?
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Hillman avenger wrote:
Zambo wrote:May should have insisted on this this years ago. Private Sector companies have been stripping layers of managers for 20 and 30 years. They are just not needed. Where I used to work, we had three tiers of line managers before director level. Why the fuck to you need a third line manager just to go to a few meetings and then spend most of the rest of the time playing golf.

Save loads of money by having a Public Sector clear out, and this is a good start.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... costs.html
Perhaps you have missed the news for the last ten years or so?
There's hardly a day goes by without some news breaking about yet another private sector company delivering public services being in the shit and/or having their contracts withdrawn? G4S has had 6 secure institution contracts taken off it, Capita and the rest are in trouble all over the place. Then there's the healthcare company being sued in the southwest for causing blindness in patients undergoing cataract treatment...the company that has utterly failed in military recruitment...
You cling to this notion that public sector=inefficiency, and private sector= efficiency, when there are examples of both across both sectors.
It was Gordon Brown who turbo-charged the Tories’ fledgling public-private partnerships in order to buy schools, hospitals and more on the never-never. This allowed him first to evade spending restrictions, and later to splurge on public-sector salaries; in the mean time, the credit card bills got higher and higher.
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Zambo wrote:wtf has that lot got to do with stripping waste and management tiers?
It has a lot to do with it.

You are generalising about the public sector being over-managed and the private sector getting it right; and I am pointing out that this is not borne out in practice.

Specifically, the police , NHS, ambulance and fire services need more management per front-line employee because they have to manage 24-hour 365 day services in multiple locations.
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I haven't said the private sector have got it right, just that there are a lot of management jobs not needed. And what's 24 hour coverage got to do with line management posts?

You don't need chief inspector at 2pm and you are even less likely to need one at 2am.

We are not talking number of managers.
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Zambo wrote:I haven't said the private sector have got it right, just that there are a lot of management jobs not needed. And what's 24 hour coverage got to do with line management posts?

You don't need chief inspector at 2pm and you are even less likely to need one at 2am.

Sorry, but you do

We are not talking number of managers.
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This levels of management thing is a great example of confusing cost and value.

My daughter works for a US It company which has grown quickly and recently decided it had gained one management level more than it needed.

The result for her and her colleagues is that instead of having a manager in the UK coaching and leading them in a key and successful part of the business, they now have an Italian manager based in Milan who has never worked in their part if the business and has another significant chunk of the organisation to manage. You can see the effect already. It will cost them a lot more in lost business than they save on thinning the management structure...problem is the guy who did it is thought to be a hero now.

It's easy to hack cost out of an organisation..it takes insight to know the effect on value.
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The example is not relative to what is being discussed.

We are talking levels of line managers in organisations in one country I.E the police. A chief inspector is a coordinator, something which could be handled by delegation and empowerment.
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Taxpayers handed £1.9million bill for 'phantom' deportation flights that asylum seekers never boarded in Theresa May's last year as Home Secretary

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... etary.html
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Steve Hunt wrote:Taxpayers handed £1.9million bill for 'phantom' deportation flights that asylum seekers never boarded in Theresa May's last year as Home Secretary

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... etary.html
I do not trust that woman at all. She's a soundbite specialist who's even worse than Cameron - but not worse than Blair.

Her assurance that 'something will be done' is a sure sign that it won't in my book.

Teresa May, but then again she may not.

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m4rkb wrote:
Steve Hunt wrote:Taxpayers handed £1.9million bill for 'phantom' deportation flights that asylum seekers never boarded in Theresa May's last year as Home Secretary

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... etary.html
I do not trust that woman at all. She's a soundbite specialist who's even worse than Cameron - but not worse than Blair.

Her assurance that 'something will be done' is a sure sign that it won't in my book.

Teresa May, but then again she may not.
indeed.

I suspect that we will have 3 and a half years of lurching from one crisis to the text, with May's government being reactive rather than proactive
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[b]Quote Steve Hunt[/b]


She's very out if her depth but this whole thing is a temporary rallying of the old entitled political classes and Westminster hangers on. They've iscolated themselves in the village and they've got their fingers in their ears so they won't hear the millions demanding a renaissance from outside the ring of steel.
The slave media are bravely trying to spin the idea that it's all back to normal, ignoring the rise of Donald Trump, the refusal of labour voters to sack Jeremy Corbyn and the referrendum vote.
The reality is, though, that they've lost control. They can no longer dictate what people must think or how they must vote .They can't enforce their strange and often wicked set of beliefs upon a population which doesn't share them.
Up till the referrendum they could silence opposition by declaring it to be a sign of stupidity, racism or failure to understand the great ideas and beliefs they espoused.
This is exactly the method you see being unwittingly parroted by Hillman here, who will tell you that you're making yourself look stupid or displaying a lack of " self awareness " , (whatever the fuck that might be ), if you make a point which he can't answer.
Unfortunately though, the people have now dared to defy them and vote according to their common sense whether the politicians and the bbc like that or not.
Once a bully has been publicly and successfully challenged he will never again push people around successfully , and the same is true for the old politicians with their dreams of an authoritarian quasi socialist and borderless one world government without the possibility of change or any individual decisions.
Thus, you're quite right that they will lurch from one crisis to the next in their efforts to turn the clock back, but in the end they will inevitably fail, as will the EU incidentally within 5 years maximum, and they will simply drift into obscurity to be replaced by people who have more honest and sensible aims, and who accept that the electorate have some say in their future policies, and the right to expect the freedom to live their own lives, in proper families, without the constant interference of the state , or having to suffer the consequences of this dreadful drive to alter reality in order to usher in an elitist world government in which politicians world wide agree the affairs of individual countries.
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How very sad.
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Hillman avenger wrote:How very sad.
Yes , it's sad for you Hillman, because you've come to love being a slave. Don't be too glum though, because once you've gotten over your fear, you'll find that it's not that scary to live without a master. Eventually, you will form your own independent thoughts and opinions, and you will grow to enjoy it.
Don't be scared . There are others like you and you can all be helped, just as the victims of indoctrination were in post war Germany .
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Had a great opportunity here, but bottled it and trotted out the precedent bollocks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36938368
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Zambo wrote:Had a great opportunity here, but bottled it and trotted out the precedent bollocks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36938368
He knows he'll go down in history as one of the worst Prime Ministers we've ever had so he's just thought fuck it. Might as well look after my friends.

That's my theory.

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Ralph wrote:
Zambo wrote:Had a great opportunity here, but bottled it and trotted out the precedent bollocks.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36938368
He knows he'll go down in history as one of the worst Prime Ministers we've ever had so he's just thought fuck it. Might as well look after my friends.

That's my theory.
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Royal24s wrote:
Hillman avenger wrote:How very sad.
Yes , it's sad for you Hillman, because you've come to love being a slave. Don't be too glum though, because once you've gotten over your fear, you'll find that it's not that scary to live without a master. Eventually, you will form your own independent thoughts and opinions, and you will grow to enjoy it.
Don't be scared . There are others like you and you can all be helped, just as the victims of indoctrination were in post war Germany .
Should have guessed.

You would not, or would not try, to understand the comment.

The sadness is that a grown adult really believes what you write.
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Yeah I did actually understand that you were trying a puerile put down Cedric. I kind of turned it round . Can you see how that works ?
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Just PRETENDED I thought you were saying you were sad about yourself. See ?
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No
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