FA Cup, greatest cup competition?

[carcinogen]

Merely a BBC vehicle?
A piece of metal rotting upon ribbon?

[Sadact7]

Sport Discussion

[Bad Blue 2000]

Easily.

I love the FA Cup.

[NorthBank]

The live game on BBC2 at the moment, Warrington vs Exeter, is a display of absolutely scintillating football.

[Bad Blue 2000]

The live game on BBC2 at the moment, Warrington vs Exeter, is a display of absolutely scintillating football.

The tv money will keep both clubs afloat for a while though.

[delboy1983]

Was undoubtedly ,until the advent of the Premier League and Sky's involvement.
Has been eroded ever since
Sky do not cover games and have now killed it up to the last 16 stage.
That will further drift to last 8
Prior to that teams use it as a vehicle to play weakened sides ,rest players
and keep squad players match fit

Age old solution-winners get a European space +top 3 from PL
Cant see Sky or the PL allowing that though

[Bad Blue 2000]

But the team who won it last year were already in the CL.

[delboy1983]

But the team who won it last year were already in the CL.

Goes to the Tigers then. And if both had qualified would revert to 4th in the PL

[Sadact7]

For me a qualification spot for the CL would actually devalue the cup. It should be about the glory of lifting the cup and the fans having that 1 fantastic day. It shouldn't simply be a side entrance to allow clubs to stick their snouts in the money trough the following season

[Bad Blue 2000]

But the team who won it last year were already in the CL.

Goes to the Tigers then. And if both had qualified would revert to 4th in the PL

Hull finished 16th in the league.

[Bad Blue 2000]

For me a qualification spot for the CL would actually devalue the cup. It should be about the glory of lifting the cup and the fans having that 1 fantastic day. It shouldn't simply be a side entrance to allow clubs to stick their snouts in the money trough the following season

It's unworkable. The majority of teams that win the FA Cup end up in the top 4.
It would mean, Millwall, Portsmouth and Wigan would have been in the CL recently.

[Sadact7]

For me a qualification spot for the CL would actually devalue the cup. It should be about the glory of lifting the cup and the fans having that 1 fantastic day. It shouldn't simply be a side entrance to allow clubs to stick their snouts in the money trough the following season

It's unworkable. The majority of teams that win the FA Cup end up in the top 4.
It would mean, Millwall, Portsmouth and Wigan would have been in the CL recently.

It would also defeat the point of the European Cup. The places allocated to each association should be taken up by the 2,3,4 or however many best teams. England gets four places, they should go to the four best teams in England. Logically the four best teams are the ones that finish 1-4 in the top flight.

[Bad Blue 2000]

Yep.

Coming second in the FA Cup shouln't leap-frog you above a team who've spent 38 games coming 4th.

[delboy1983]

Well it was a thought and you both are right.
The FA Cup is for the fans and now 2 days at Wembley instead of one.

Unfortunately Owners,Chairmen and Managers do not buy into that
hence the reason the cup teams even down to some teams in Division one
have 6-8 changes at least from the previous league game.

This changes except for maybe the no 2 keeper keeping his place
when 16 teams or is it even 8 now start picking stronger sides

[Bad Blue 2000]

Teams change for cup comps, it's nothing new.

[Reg]

For me a qualification spot for the CL would actually devalue the cup. It should be about the glory of lifting the cup and the fans having that 1 fantastic day. It shouldn't simply be a side entrance to allow clubs to stick their snouts in the money trough the following season

It's unworkable. The majority of teams that win the FA Cup end up in the top 4.
It would mean, Millwall, Portsmouth and Wigan would have been in the CL recently.

That would have been good.

[Bad Blue 2000]

For me a qualification spot for the CL would actually devalue the cup. It should be about the glory of lifting the cup and the fans having that 1 fantastic day. It shouldn't simply be a side entrance to allow clubs to stick their snouts in the money trough the following season

It's unworkable. The majority of teams that win the FA Cup end up in the top 4.
It would mean, Millwall, Portsmouth and Wigan would have been in the CL recently.

That would have been good.

If your name is Finchman.

[delboy1983]

Teams change for cup comps, it's nothing new.

There's changes and there's wholesale changes ie weakened side

[Bad Blue 2000]

Teams change for cup comps, it's nothing new.

There's changes and there's wholesale changes ie weakened side

I guess that's an issue for those who travel to games.

[Sadact7]

Teams change for cup comps, it's nothing new.

There's changes and there's wholesale changes ie weakened side

I guess that's an issue for those who travel to games.

I was fucking livid in 09 when I paid £55 (iirc) and a hotel in London for the FA Cup semi vs Everton and Fergie played a reserve side. 2 hours in the blazing sun watching the worst game of football in history before seeing Berbatov take the single most pathetic penalty I've ever seen. Then having to travel back up North on a Sunday night.

In typical brainless fashion, they played Arsenal vs Chelsea on the Saturday but then had the two teams from the North West play on a Sunday

[delboy1983]

Teams change for cup comps, it's nothing new.

There's changes and there's wholesale changes ie weakened side

I guess that's an issue for those who travel to games.

It's an issue for anyone who want's to get to Wembley and see their team lift the cup.

Don't make it all about me Blue

[Bad Blue 2000]

Teams change for cup comps, it's nothing new.

There's changes and there's wholesale changes ie weakened side

I guess that's an issue for those who travel to games.

I was fucking livid in 09 when I paid £55 (iirc) and a hotel in London for the FA Cup semi vs Everton and Fergie played a reserve side. 2 hours in the blazing sun watching the worst game of football in history before seeing Berbatov take the single most pathetic penalty I've ever seen. Then having to travel back up North on a Sunday night.

In typical brainless fashion, they played Arsenal vs Chelsea on the Saturday but then had the two teams from the North West play on a Sunday

Happy days.

[Bad Blue 2000]

Teams change for cup comps, it's nothing new.

There's changes and there's wholesale changes ie weakened side

I guess that's an issue for those who travel to games.

It's an issue for anyone who want's to get to Wembley and see their team lift the cup.

Don't make it all about me Blue

eh?

[kevin04]

It's a great competition along with it's Jock counterpart.

Love seeing all the small teams rake in a ton of cash from a money spinning 2nd/3rd round game against a big club. The names too - Havant & Waterlooville - sounds like a tube station.

[AlcoholBrazil]

I'd make the rich bastards in the top two tier play an extra round in a 128 team KO. ,so more minnows get a shot at the big boys.Just to hear the whinging about fixture congestion
(like when an English team is lucky enough to be in the FIFA World Club Cup ) and when a prized £50million
prima donna World Class Treasure is crocked by some part-time builder from a team like Havant and Waterlooville.