Tom and Jerry-Racist!
- Glazed Earthenware Horse
- Winner - POTY 2012!!!!
- Posts: 3851
- Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:36 am
Tom and Jerry-Racist!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-29427843
Tom and Jerry cartoons on television are being accompanied by a warning that they may depict scenes of "racial prejudice".
The classic cat and mouse cartoons, some made more than 70 years ago, carry a warning for subscribers to Amazon Prime Instant Video.
There have been claims of racist stereotyping in the depiction of a black maid in the cartoon series.
The cartoons were made in the 40s and 50s, when many middle class American homes still employed black house servants. These were some of the greatest cartoons ever created. The maid was never shown in full, you only ever saw her slippers, the bottom of her dress and apron.
I always wondered why these wonderful cartoons were never shown on the main channels any more. Now we know the answer.
How long before a total ban , or edited,defaced versions of these masterpieces are only available?
And what about history? Depicting black housekeepers may provoke debate about racial prejudices? That is surely a good thing?
But if the bedwetters get their way? No child today has ever read a Noddy book.
They never learn. Book burning, banning, cartoon defacing,censorship, 'ear plugs and blindfolds', the eradication of thought, and of asking questions, and to not learn the lessons from historical evidence, make society the worse, not better.
Leave Tom and Jerry alone!
Tom and Jerry cartoons on television are being accompanied by a warning that they may depict scenes of "racial prejudice".
The classic cat and mouse cartoons, some made more than 70 years ago, carry a warning for subscribers to Amazon Prime Instant Video.
There have been claims of racist stereotyping in the depiction of a black maid in the cartoon series.
The cartoons were made in the 40s and 50s, when many middle class American homes still employed black house servants. These were some of the greatest cartoons ever created. The maid was never shown in full, you only ever saw her slippers, the bottom of her dress and apron.
I always wondered why these wonderful cartoons were never shown on the main channels any more. Now we know the answer.
How long before a total ban , or edited,defaced versions of these masterpieces are only available?
And what about history? Depicting black housekeepers may provoke debate about racial prejudices? That is surely a good thing?
But if the bedwetters get their way? No child today has ever read a Noddy book.
They never learn. Book burning, banning, cartoon defacing,censorship, 'ear plugs and blindfolds', the eradication of thought, and of asking questions, and to not learn the lessons from historical evidence, make society the worse, not better.
Leave Tom and Jerry alone!
Talkforum's Official Crazy Larger than life Character!
- colinthewarriormonkey
- Registered user
- Posts: 7042
- Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:57 pm
- Glazed Earthenware Horse
- Winner - POTY 2012!!!!
- Posts: 3851
- Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:36 am
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
Last edited by Glazed Earthenware Horse on Wed Oct 01, 2014 1:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Talkforum's Official Crazy Larger than life Character!
- colinthewarriormonkey
- Registered user
- Posts: 7042
- Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:57 pm
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
Caught me before I resized the fucker.Glazed Earthenware Horse wrote:colinthewarriormonkey wrote:WTF - No way is it racist
"The Cunt's Cunt."
"One desperate shithouse"
"One desperate shithouse"
- Glazed Earthenware Horse
- Winner - POTY 2012!!!!
- Posts: 3851
- Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:36 am
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
Bloody hell Colin! Have you got a complete portfolio on T&J? You dragged those pics up quick.
Talkforum's Official Crazy Larger than life Character!
- colinthewarriormonkey
- Registered user
- Posts: 7042
- Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:57 pm
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
Glazed Earthenware Horse wrote:Bloody hell Colin! Have you got a complete portfolio on T&J? You dragged those pics up quick.
Google is my friend.
I'd prefer a warning in front rather than the scenes being edited out, which has happened.
"The Cunt's Cunt."
"One desperate shithouse"
"One desperate shithouse"
- colinthewarriormonkey
- Registered user
- Posts: 7042
- Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:57 pm
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
"The Cunt's Cunt."
"One desperate shithouse"
"One desperate shithouse"
-
- Registered user
- Posts: 6211
- Joined: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:19 pm
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
Course they were racist - most cartoons were back then.
Bugs bunny was one of the worst for it.
Bugs bunny was one of the worst for it.
The most abused and banned poster in Talkforum history.
- Glazed Earthenware Horse
- Winner - POTY 2012!!!!
- Posts: 3851
- Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:36 am
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
The piccaninny stereotype (c. 1852-1950s) was the common way that White Americans pictured little black children in the late 1800s and early 1900s:
eyes: big and wide
lips: big and red on a wide mouth
hair: sticks out in all directions
dress: ill-clothed to naked
favourite foods: watermelon, chicken
parents: where are they?
language: Coon English – “I is”, etc.
threats: alligators and other wild animals
intelligence: low
darkie status: a helpless darkie meant for amusement
Rupert Bear visits Coon Island in the 1950s (British)
Some more blatantly racist than others. But again it was the mindset of that era. My fear is that T&J could eventually be dumped into the waste bin of yesteryear, like Noddy and certain elements of Rupert Bear. That would be wrong.
eyes: big and wide
lips: big and red on a wide mouth
hair: sticks out in all directions
dress: ill-clothed to naked
favourite foods: watermelon, chicken
parents: where are they?
language: Coon English – “I is”, etc.
threats: alligators and other wild animals
intelligence: low
darkie status: a helpless darkie meant for amusement
Rupert Bear visits Coon Island in the 1950s (British)
Some more blatantly racist than others. But again it was the mindset of that era. My fear is that T&J could eventually be dumped into the waste bin of yesteryear, like Noddy and certain elements of Rupert Bear. That would be wrong.
Talkforum's Official Crazy Larger than life Character!
- colinthewarriormonkey
- Registered user
- Posts: 7042
- Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2007 5:57 pm
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
notin kwestion wrote:Course they were racist - most cartoons were back then.
Bugs bunny was one of the worst for it.
Bollocks
Aint no stereotyping here, cuz
"The Cunt's Cunt."
"One desperate shithouse"
"One desperate shithouse"
-
- Registered user
- Posts: 2244
- Joined: Sun Jul 01, 2007 10:17 am
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
Absolute ballacks, same as with that 30's ditty which lost a DJ his living.
Sent from my Advent Monza S200 so bloody old I can't remember when I bought it
- Basualdo
- Winner - POTY 2011!!!!
- Posts: 16264
- Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:31 am
- Location: Selling some halogen lamps.
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
They redubbed the maid in the 70s with an Oirish accent for some fucking reason.
Proud Gammon
RIP Neil Peart 1952-2020.
RIP Neil Peart 1952-2020.
- AlcoholBrazil
- Registered user
- Posts: 9509
- Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:41 am
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
As long as they didn't say N.....!Basualdo wrote:They redubbed the maid in the 70s with an Oirish accent for some fucking reason.
Boris " Do not look at what I am doing, Look how cute and adorable Dilyn is.....Look at Dilyn ! "
- finchman
- Registered user
- Posts: 2448
- Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2010 8:58 am
- Location: Beverley Hills of the North
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
Roots by Alex Haley, one of the best series ever shown on television...............
It will never be shown again.
It will never be shown again.
Joel,Boyce,Alcaraz,Scharner,Espinoza,McCarthy,McArthur,Gomez,(Watson),McManaman,Maloney,Kone,...LEGENDS!
- Basualdo
- Winner - POTY 2011!!!!
- Posts: 16264
- Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:31 am
- Location: Selling some halogen lamps.
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
Mainly because it was made up bullshit.finchman wrote:Roots by Alex Haley, one of the best series ever shown on television...............
It will never be shown again.
Proud Gammon
RIP Neil Peart 1952-2020.
RIP Neil Peart 1952-2020.
- carcinogen
- Registered user
- Posts: 5982
- Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:01 pm
- Location: East Coast
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
Some vintage anti-semitism from Disney in 1933:
Fred Kite: I've got to be off. I can't stay here arguing. I've got a lot to do. Report to the Executive, check up on the pickets.
Mrs. Kite: From what I can see, the only time you ever jolly well *do* any work is when you're on strike.
Mrs. Kite: From what I can see, the only time you ever jolly well *do* any work is when you're on strike.
- The Ghost of Alex Higgins
- No longer the Bridesmaid
- Posts: 24662
- Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:35 pm
- Location: oN TOP
- Basualdo
- Winner - POTY 2011!!!!
- Posts: 16264
- Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:31 am
- Location: Selling some halogen lamps.
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
Just say no.TGOAH 15K wrote:What about Grange Hill
Proud Gammon
RIP Neil Peart 1952-2020.
RIP Neil Peart 1952-2020.
- The Ghost of Alex Higgins
- No longer the Bridesmaid
- Posts: 24662
- Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:35 pm
- Location: oN TOP
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
To Zammo. Or was that Zambo?
Speaking for the rest of the forum since 2019
- carcinogen
- Registered user
- Posts: 5982
- Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:01 pm
- Location: East Coast
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
The first ever chav?Basualdo wrote:Just say no.TGOAH 15K wrote:What about Grange Hill
Fred Kite: I've got to be off. I can't stay here arguing. I've got a lot to do. Report to the Executive, check up on the pickets.
Mrs. Kite: From what I can see, the only time you ever jolly well *do* any work is when you're on strike.
Mrs. Kite: From what I can see, the only time you ever jolly well *do* any work is when you're on strike.
- The Ghost of Alex Higgins
- No longer the Bridesmaid
- Posts: 24662
- Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:35 pm
- Location: oN TOP
- Rainbowmonkey
- Winner - POTY 2014!!!!
- Posts: 13483
- Joined: Thu Oct 28, 2010 12:26 pm
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
This could finally be what finishes off Brazil's broadcasting ""career""... "OCHH UTTS DIABOLLICKAL, 'ONESTLY"- <downhill fast>
Last edited by Rainbowmonkey on Wed Oct 01, 2014 3:51 pm, edited 1 time in total.
You ARE Rodney Bewes
- Basualdo
- Winner - POTY 2011!!!!
- Posts: 16264
- Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:31 am
- Location: Selling some halogen lamps.
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
Fuck, you mustn't have got out much in the 80s then?carcinogen wrote:The first ever chav?Basualdo wrote:Just say no.TGOAH 15K wrote:What about Grange Hill
Proud Gammon
RIP Neil Peart 1952-2020.
RIP Neil Peart 1952-2020.
- Basualdo
- Winner - POTY 2011!!!!
- Posts: 16264
- Joined: Thu Aug 17, 2006 12:31 am
- Location: Selling some halogen lamps.
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
Why is Hoddle Richard Keys' favourite footballer?carcinogen wrote:The first ever chav?Basualdo wrote:Just say no.TGOAH 15K wrote:What about Grange Hill
Because he can curl a beauty from 40yards.
Proud Gammon
RIP Neil Peart 1952-2020.
RIP Neil Peart 1952-2020.
- Glazed Earthenware Horse
- Winner - POTY 2012!!!!
- Posts: 3851
- Joined: Mon Sep 03, 2007 12:36 am
Re: Tom and Jerry-Racist!
I had that cartoon on print for some toy projector I was bought circa 1972.carcinogen wrote:Some vintage anti-semitism from Disney in 1933:
Talkforum's Official Crazy Larger than life Character!