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And what a documentary it was. As per the 'hollywoodnews' review above, their reviewer knows nothing about chess and loved it. I do and loved it.

Utterly fascinating human portrayal of the boy who became the man who is best ranked ever. I've mocked Carlsen before about his modelling, his sisters do in this, but seeing the real boy and man makes me warm to him.

Starts with amazing footage of Carlsen waiting for Anand for the start of game in Chennai behind glass and hundreds of photographers and Carlsen head bowed before it starts, a man alone and lost.

As per, much home footage and dad saying about young Magnus being in his own world accompanied by a hilarious clip of dad setting up a little jump over a pole for Magnus and sister. Sister jumps and Magnus runs straight through it.

Then, more on Iceland and the game v Kasparov where the boy lost turns and looks to his parents and family who give him the thumbs up and he carries on. The young boy looking lost as the man in Chennai later.

The whole Chennai championship looks typical Indian mentalism with Carlsen landing, getting the full welcome looking like he wants to fuck back on the plane to Norway. We know the result of the match but more lovely scenes right to the end.

During an interview to the director, this incredible piece of dialogue. RM, as to the crossover with arrars, could see MvG like this to a lesser extent: :shock:
Interviewer: "How often will you say that you think about chess?"

Carlsen: "It's hard to say. Sometimes it feels like all the time, sometimes I get a bit of a break. But it's always, it's almost always in the back of my mind."

Interviewer: "Do you think about chess now?"

Carlsen: "Yes."

Interviewer: "What do you think about?"

Carlsen: "It's different fragments of games. My mind is just analysing stuff in the background."
Have to give it a Carlos 9/10. A must see.
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Game 2 from Saturday. Whilst game 1 was a rarely seen Trompowsky with some wags from the chess rags debating an allusion to Trump as we are in NYC, game 2 with Karjakin as white was a much more orthodox and familiar Ruy Lopez, yay.

Here's Jerry:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1vgn7OXug3M

GM Danny King:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6_Yuwt2-yq8

Well another draw. I enjoyed it, sensible development and piece orientation,little risk taking. But still good for the amateur to learn. Develop and don't go off on dodgy pushes, something I can't help doing v Kow.

Not sure about Jerry's graph but hey, Jerry and Danny agreed on most. Some have said dull games, Danny calls it right as good games played with tension. And Carlsen called it better in the presser:
“I ask you for your understanding that this is a long match,” Carlsen said at Saturday’s postgame press conference. “Not every game will be a firework.”
Quite right, Magnus. And do like this piece: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/dra ... mpionship/
So best of 12, first to 6.5 wins:

Carlsen 1 - 1 Karjakin

Game 3 Monday should be over now, vids to come.
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Until Jerry and Danny sort their videos out, we have a new friend and we have drama. GM Niclas Huschenbeth describes the action and the mays, may nots and maybes of the ending:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=AkBmZDAzyqo
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Here's Jerry on game 3:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6iomhHI7QoY

And dear old GM Danny King:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SeBfGhAhFQA

Great analysis of the endgame by Danny. A 7 hour thriller and stoic defending by Karjakin in a game Carlsen should have won.

So best of 12, first to 6.5 wins:

Carlsen 1.5 - 1.5 Karjakin
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Seven hours for game 3, you'd think the day after a quicky? But nope, six and a half hours and 94 moves for game 4. And another thriller and defence from Karjakin. He made a mistake with Bxh6, and Carlsen had the very difficult chances, but fortress after fortress from Karjakin wouldn't let Carlsen through. The man is sticking with Carlsen.

Went to see this. Fascinating event, people and the presser after was intriguing. Watching Carlsen there, you can still see the as per lost boy there at times, though often masked and he is quite funny. Maybe a snap or two when home. This is an interesting article about it: http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/218050/ ... four-games

Here's Jerry:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=9ksnn0KUx-Y

GM Danny King:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ULaFA5eZnJA

Best of 12, first to 6.5 wins:

Carlsen 2 - 2 Karjakin.
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Whilst we wait for Jerry and Danny to upload their videos of game 5, we'll meet another new friend. Jerry and Danny both do live coverage so their vids will probably be up tomorrow so kudos to GM Peter Svidler for getting highlights up so quickly.

Svidler, currently number 21 in the world does commentary for chess24 on youtube and caught the end of it today and he's very good; fast analysis and a laconic sense of humour. Unlike his co-commentator, GM Eric Hansen, who is a lot
of a cunt.

Anyway, game 5 and Carlsen with white varies from the Ruy Lopez (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5) with the ever so slightly different Italian (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4), one Bishop square different but a whole different game. Karjakin replies 3...Bc4 for the Giuoco Piano. Only watched the end of live and the start of this so no middle game watching so will comment later:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BRsWO0o10FI

Best of 12, first to 6.5 wins:

Carlsen 2.5 - 2.5 Karjakin
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Jerry:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=dOi-O7tCtn0

Danny in a fetching red jumper:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=udrqyCn0uLc

So Karjakin had loose, vague, difficult chances but not going near them. Interesting, Danny mentioning tension and possibly tiredness affecting them. Five draws may seem dull, but some most interesting chess so far.
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Game 6 and another Ruy Lopez. :) But shorter than the others. Tactical but lots of exchanges and again opposite bishops and draw. Danny says Karjakin is tired. Rest day tomorrow and then they switch so Karjakin white again.

Jerry:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nNlEfHuL_8U

GM Danny King:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QmrhsinPvkI
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Live coverage of game 7 with the great and my new like, Peter Svidler. Also German GM Jan Gustafsson who is also quite amusing. Looks another draw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hdtl2xo0FY
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Hold on, it could be interesting as following behind. Has Carlsen made a mistake?
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Another draw. Here's something interesting. Top 10 Blunders in World Chess Championship History:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3vLdHSuASE
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Game 7 and another draw. Karjakin plays 1 d4. A Slav variation of the Queens Gambit Declined. Man I hate queenside openings. Jerry say it nice about 28...Rc8.

An interesting poiint in his theoretical lines about 13'30" is 32...Bc3 and then 33 a4. Interesting how many people forget about en passant as a move.

Anyway, opposite bishops and a draw:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSqik1aVxPw

GM Danny King pondering already some rapidplay tiebreak for Karjakin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah1dg8GfNCo

Best of 12, first to 6.5 wins:

Carlsen 3.5 - 3.5 Karjakin
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I said before about GM Peter Svidler being very amusing. And GM Jan Gustafsson and Svidler on their live videos. Watch from 1'53" and amusing asides about super GMs and Carlsen's film, which I thought was lovely:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hdtl2xo0FY
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Game 8 interesting before time control:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLlyerU1_Dc
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It's fascinating to see how GMs speak about computer moves. Which maybe are perfect moves but not human moves.
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Carlos J wrote:Game 8 interesting before time control:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLlyerU1_Dc
Seems very interesting. Will full comment tomorrow on rest day.
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And very interesting it was. Another queenside opening from Carlsen, which led to a Colle, white playing d4 and then at some stage e3. A very safe line, not one for a world champion with white, one would ponder.

Excellent analysis by Jerry of c5 blunder and Karjakin playing Qd3, but both in bad time trouble. A fantastic endgame though, Carlsen cares, he doesn't want to win his world championship title back on draws and some rapidplay.

A fianchetto Bishop is nice down the lines, but if blocked as Carlsen's on g2 with the e4 pawn, a piece totally out of the game. 51...h5 a killer after Carlsen's Qe6.

Jerry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECYkkpANUe0

Go Danny: "Game 8 of the World Chess Championship was played today in New York and what a sensational encounter this was."
Danny's anaylsis of Karjakin safety first playing is spot on. And fortune does not always favour the brave. :) Svidler said Karjakin next best to Vishy when pressé.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cD5IEb_PKlc

Best of 12, first to 6.5 wins:

Carlsen 3.5 - 4.5 Karjarkin

Four to play.
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Even non-chess fans should watch. As per and only recently noted the great GM Jan Gustafsson and superb err super GM Peter Svidler youtubes live on chess24.

It is probably water, but old Svidler at 4'38" opens his bottle, has a large swig and puts it down with a large thud. That is glass, no one has water in glass bottles now. :roll: God bless the Russian if supping vodka. :) :drinkers: And then continues a great debate about medical TV series about Doctors with 'House', Grays Anatomy' and 'Scrubs', and moves on to 'Doctor Who'. Class comedy. Watch the rest if you want to see their opinion of Carlsen's loss, which they didn't foresee:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLlyerU1_Dc
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GM Peter Svidler, bless him, doing the summarising straight after hours of commentary, well he is getting coin, but hey.

Game 9 analysis. And this is GM anaylsis and so quick and bewtiful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAnNI95bAcE&t=22s

As is bewtiful, little chubby cheeks, Pochettino, Svidler looks like him as well.

Best of 12, first to 6.5 wins:

Carlsen 4 - 5 Karjakin
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There have been many mentions of Carlsen leaving the presser before Karjakin got there: https://www.rt.com/sport/367918-carlsen ... -meltdown/

I was at the presser of game 4, it takes a couple of minutes TV interviews before they get seated. They were taking too long and rightly, Carlsen, sat there after losing with hundreds of cameras and phones photographing him sat there on the stage alone, thought, "Fuck that, they're taking the piss."

And I concur with him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR-4_ouXUV4

Though as per, look at his face, just look at his face. The scared, lost boy of videos shown is still there. Fuck all the model contracts and socalled glam, he is just Magnus with his family.
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Game 9 videos from Jerry and GM Danny. After Karjakin's win in game 8 with, black, will he go for a safe draw or continue to attack with white?:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFPICFw7wN0

Danny get's quite excitable at 9.50 after 41. b5 and Indiana Jones parallels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5odTlopa7w

Another Ruy Lopez and quite a decent game and Karjakin did go for a win. Carlsen fairly comfortably held it .

Best of 12, first to 6.5 wins:

Carlsen 4 - 5 Karjakin

Carlsen has white in game 10 and game 12. Got to hope he needs a win in game 12 fro tie breaks and has to go all out. Game 10. Schedule is:

Thursday 24 - Game 10
Friday 25 - Rest Day
Saturday 26 - Game 11
Sunday 27 - Rest Day
Monday 28 - Game 12
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Game 10 and Casrlsen with white.

Jerry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK8spIAb_gE

GM Danny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqiir1shB-Q

Another Ruy Lopez and this time Karjakin's defensive skills cannot hold Carlsen back. The champion back on form and we have parity again. What will this do to Karjakin's mind with just two games left?

Best of 12, first to 6.5 wins:

Carlsen 5 - 5 Karjakin
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Game 11 of 12, all square and Karjakin with white after a loss.

Jerry's vid, GM Danny's not up yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sAqzS2mjtw

Another Ruy Lopez and I think the shortest game so far. Some option for Carlsen but safe for Karjakin.

GM Danny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVoKRv2gQw8

Best of 12, first to 6.5 wins:

Carlsen 5.5 - 5.5 Karjakin

So to the final game with Carlsen with white. Willl he go for it, knowing a win is victory? Will Karjakin try to trade quickly for a draw and try his luck in the rapidplay tie-breaks? We'll see Monday.
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Tuned in for the game 12 decider after an hour and lo, all over: https://en.chessbase.com/post/newsblog- ... 6-11-28-en

Dear old Peter Svidler and Jan Gustafsson on for a short one to watch back:

https://youtu.be/xhPbUY_ZGLc

Best of 12, first to 6.5 wins:

Carlsen 6 - 6 Karjakin

Chessbase tells the tie-break situation best:
Tie-breaks will start by four rapid games (25 min + 10 sec/move). If the score is level after that, five mini-matches consisting of two blitz games (5 min + 3 sec/move) per match will follow. If after these five blitz matches, we still do not have a winner, one sudden-death game will be hold. There, white is in a must-win-situation, but has five minutes while black only has four minutes, both players receive an increment of 3 seconds starting from move 61.

So all in all, the match could last for 15 games!

20.50 / 2.50 pm: "I didn't feel today was the day to take major chances." (Magnus Carlsen)

20.45 / 2.45 pm: Tiebreaks will start on Wednesday at 2 pm and last until they are over. Magnus will have black in the first game.
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