Darts Players Champs TV Finals Game

Rainbowmonkey · Post by **Rainbowmonkey** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:05 pm

Game 20: Nay Nopp Yay Dob Nay Hopp

That's made my eyes go that has. Fuck. ghghby err The 9th edition of the Players Championship TV Finals is from Friday 25th to Sunday 27th November, live on ITV4 from a Butlins, Minehead. A big old thing with 64 players, so a slightly queer game, alright though.

The more accurate your score predictions, the more points you get. If you get the match winner correct, you are guaranteed some points. If you get the match winner wrong, you get zero:

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Fill in the template below, in this thread or by PM, by Friday, 1pm.

(1) Predict the scores of 16 First Round matches. First to 6 legs wins.

(2) Predict the players and the scores of the 8 Second Round matches in the other half of the draw. Still first to 6 legs wins. Gotta get both players correct to score any points - 10 points if you do, plus regular points system based on your winner/score prediction on top of that.

(3) Predict the final: Champion and Runner-up. 25pts if your player does make the final; total of 35pts if he does exactly what you say. That's per player, so 70 points total if you get champion and runner-up spot-on.

*DO THE SCORES:

Michael van Gerwen v Andy Hamilton
Vincent van der Voort v Andrew Gilding
Josh Payne v Mark Walsh
Cristo Reyes v Berry van Peer
Mensur Suljovic v Raymond van Barneveld
Adrian Lewis v Robert Thornton
Joe Cullen v Steve Brown
Ronny Huybrechts v Rowby-John Rodriguez
Gerwyn Price v Dimitri Van den Bergh
Christian Kist v Ricky Evans
Steve West v Jan Dekker
Justin Pipe v Andy Jenkins
Simon Whitlock v Matthew Edgar
Darren Webster v Jonny Clayton
Chris Dobey v Mick McGowan
Alan Norris v Michael Smith

*PICK THE PLAYERS AND DO THE SCORES: (eg. Brendan Dolan 4-6 Joe Murnan)

Benito van de Pas/Brendan Dolan v Joe Murnan/Jermaine Wattimena

Kim Huybrechts/Mickey Mansell v Daryl Gurney/Ronnie Baxter

Peter Wright/Jason Wilson v James Wade/Mervyn King

Stephen Bunting/Ron Meulenkamp v Gary Anderson/John Henderson

Dave Chisnall/Kevin Painter v Jamie Caven/Jamie Lewis

James Wilson/Vincent Kamphuis v Jelle Klaasen/Simon Stevenson

Ian White/Keegan Brown v Mark Webster/Terry Jenkins

Steve Beaton/Jeffrey de Graaf v Robbie Green/Devon Petersen

*Champion:
*Runner-up:

^the final will be between one player from the top half of the draw, and one from the bottom half:

Spoiler:

Rainbowmonkey · Post by **Rainbowmonkey** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:18 pm

Previous medalglory - has anyone played every game?

I do have access to that info but even I draw the line somewhwere. I think Holden may have played them all. A few others have probably missed the odd one.

2014 Matchplay ........

m4rk

henry

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2014 Grand Prix .......

Roq

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2014 Euro Champ ......

RM

henry

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2014 Masters ............

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Ghost

RM
2014 Grand Slam A .....

Holden

Ghost

Carlos
2014 Grand Slam B .....

sub

henry

Holden
2014 Players Champ ....

Holden

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RM
2015 Worlds A ...........

gene

Ghost

RM
2015 Worlds B ...........

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2015 Premier League A ..

Carlos

Roq

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2015 Premier League B ..

RM

Ghost

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2015 Matchplay ..........

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RM
2016 Worlds .............

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2016 Matchplay A ......

m4rk

Ghost

Carlos
2016 Matchplay B .....

The End

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2016 Champs League ..

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Carlos

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2016 Grand Prix .......

The End

Carlos

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2016 Euro Champ .......

Carlos

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2016 Grand Slam .......

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Holden

Rainbowmonkey · Post by **Rainbowmonkey** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:22 pm

Full draw and schedule here: http://www.pdc.tv/news/article/q2r3d4au ... --schedule

Live scoring here: http://live.dartsdata.com/

Constant updates on twidder, grew to over 180,000 followers during the Grand Slam: https://twitter.com/OfficialPDC

Rainbowmonkey · Post by **Rainbowmonkey** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:39 pm

Did put a bit in the darts thread about what the Players Championship Finals are and how it's seeded etc. : https://www.talkforum.co.uk/viewtopic.p ... 4#p1018511

May add more in this thread tomorrow. Previous winners below... nobody has ever retained this title. MvG's win in 2013 was a huge breakthrough for him. He'd gone way off the boil that year, but did an extremely unlikely and brilliant comeback to beat a gobsmacked Philth in the final and took the momentum into the 2013/14 Worlds which he won.

Gary Anderson did something similar in 2014. That was his first PDC TV ranking title win. 6 weeks later he was world champ.

delboy1983 · Post by **delboy1983** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:44 pm

Painter v Webster
Nicholson v King

Wow bus strike those years

The End · Post by **The End** » Tue Nov 22, 2016 8:24 pm

*DO THE SCORES:

Michael van Gerwen v Andy Hamilton 6-0
Vincent van der Voort v Andrew Gilding 6-4
Josh Payne v Mark Walsh 6-3
Cristo Reyes v Berry van Peer 6-5
Mensur Suljovic v Raymond van Barneveld 4-6
Adrian Lewis v Robert Thornton 6-3
Joe Cullen v Steve Brown 6-3
Ronny Huybrechts v Rowby-John Rodriguez 6-4
Gerwyn Price v Dimitri Van den Bergh 4-6
Christian Kist v Ricky Evans 6-3
Steve West v Jan Dekker 6-2
Justin Pipe v Andy Jenkins 0-0 (or 6-4)
Simon Whitlock v Matthew Edgar 6-2
Darren Webster v Jonny Clayton 6-5
Chris Dobey v Mick McGowan 6-3
Alan Norris v Michael Smith 5-6

*PICK THE PLAYERS AND DO THE SCORES: (eg. Brendan Dolan 4-6 Joe Murnan)

Benito van de Pas/Brendan Dolan v Joe Murnan/Jermaine Wattimena
= van de Pas v Wattimena 6-4
Kim Huybrechts/Mickey Mansell v Daryl Gurney/Ronnie Baxter
= Huybrechts v Gurney 5-6
Peter Wright/Jason Wilson v James Wade/Mervyn King
= Wright v Wade 6-5
Stephen Bunting/Ron Meulenkamp v Gary Anderson/John Henderson
= Bunting v Anderson 2-6
Dave Chisnall/Kevin Painter v Jamie Caven/Jamie Lewis
= Chisnall v Lewis 6-4
James Wilson/Vincent Kamphuis v Jelle Klaasen/Simon Stevenson
= Wilson v Klaasen 4-6
Ian White/Keegan Brown v Mark Webster/Terry Jenkins
= White v Jenkins 4-6
Steve Beaton/Jeffrey de Graaf v Robbie Green/Devon Petersen
= Beaton v Green 4-6

*Champion: Van Gerwen
*Runner-up: Anderson

Holden Mcgroyne · Post by **Holden Mcgroyne** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:37 am

Taylor didn't qualify, first time since 1989 he's not made a TV tournament.

m4rkb · Post by **m4rkb** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 11:16 am

Holden Mcgroyne wrote:Taylor didn't qualify, first time since 1989 he's not made a TV tournament.

He said he was going to retire. Maybe this is the catalyst for it.

If he was winning all the time like Van Gerwen is , you could guarantee he wouldn't. But facts are facts and he's not. MVG may just disprove Taylor's superiority as the greatest ever if he keeps on getting whipped by him.What's the head to head tally as it stands I wonder?

delboy1983 · Post by **delboy1983** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:08 pm

One last world for Taylor and if he doesn't win it ,he retires.

Good pub doubles pairing Taylor/Lewis

The End · Post by **The End** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 1:19 pm

m4rkb wrote:
Holden Mcgroyne wrote:Taylor didn't qualify, first time since 1989 he's not made a TV tournament.
He said he was going to retire. Maybe this is the catalyst for it.

If he was winning all the time like Van Gerwen is , you could guarantee he wouldn't. But facts are facts and he's not. MVG may just disprove Taylor's superiority as the greatest ever if he keeps on getting whipped by him.What's the head to head tally as it stands I wonder?

Taylor 31-23 Van Gerwen (2 draws)

Year-by-Year:

2016: Taylor 5-8 Van Gerwen (1 draw)
2015: Taylor 0-4 Van Gerwen
2014: Taylor 5-2 Van Gerwen
2013: Taylor 5-5 Van Gerwen (1 draw)
2012: Taylor 1-2 Van Gerwen
2011: Taylor 4-0 Van Gerwen
2010: Taylor 2-0 Van Gerwen
2009: Taylor 5-0 Van Gerwen
2008: Taylor 2-0 Van Gerwen
2007: Taylor 1-2 Van Gerwen
2006: Taylor 1-0 Van Gerwen

Taylor, though, has curiously won 4 of the last 5.

m4rkb · Post by **m4rkb** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 3:12 pm

The End wrote:
m4rkb wrote:
Holden Mcgroyne wrote:Taylor didn't qualify, first time since 1989 he's not made a TV tournament.
He said he was going to retire. Maybe this is the catalyst for it.

If he was winning all the time like Van Gerwen is , you could guarantee he wouldn't. But facts are facts and he's not. MVG may just disprove Taylor's superiority as the greatest ever if he keeps on getting whipped by him.What's the head to head tally as it stands I wonder?
Taylor 31-23 Van Gerwen (2 draws)

Year-by-Year:

2016: Taylor 5-8 Van Gerwen (1 draw)
2015: Taylor 0-4 Van Gerwen
2014: Taylor 5-2 Van Gerwen
2013: Taylor 5-5 Van Gerwen (1 draw)
2012: Taylor 1-2 Van Gerwen
2011: Taylor 4-0 Van Gerwen
2010: Taylor 2-0 Van Gerwen
2009: Taylor 5-0 Van Gerwen
2008: Taylor 2-0 Van Gerwen
2007: Taylor 1-2 Van Gerwen
2006: Taylor 1-0 Van Gerwen

Taylor, though, has curiously won 4 of the last 5.

Cheers for that Endo. Most interesting.

Presumably 2017 has the potential to match them both up another dozen times or more times and with Van Gerwen on current form you'd not bet against him clean sweeping Taylor. Now that would not be a good way for The Power to retire would it? Van Gerwen being the only player to have a better head to head win ratio against Taylor. From 2006 to 2012 accounts for 20 meetings but as you can see they are likely meet almost every other week in recent times.

subsub · Post by **subsub** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:54 pm

*DO THE SCORES:

Michael van Gerwen 6-2 Andy Hamilton
Vincent van der Voort 6-4 Andrew Gilding
Josh Payne 3-6 Mark Walsh
Cristo Reyes 6-3 Berry van Peer
Mensur Suljovic 3-6 Raymond van Barneveld
Adrian Lewis 6-4 Robert Thornton
Joe Cullen 6-2 Steve Brown
Ronny Huybrechts 6-3 Rowby-John Rodriguez
Gerwyn Price 6-3 Dimitri Van den Bergh
Christian Kist 3-6 Ricky Evans
Steve West 1-6 Jan Dekker
Justin Pipe 6-2 Andy Jenkins
Simon Whitlock 6-2 Matthew Edgar
Darren Webster 6-3 Jonny Clayton
Chris Dobey 4-6 Mick McGowan
Alan Norris 4-6 Michael Smith

*PICK THE PLAYERS AND DO THE SCORES: (eg. Brendan Dolan 4-6 Joe Murnan)

Benito van de Pas 6-4 Joe Murnan

Kim Huybrechts 6-3 Daryl Gurney

Peter Wright 2-6 James Wade

Stephen Bunting 4-6 Gary Anderson

Dave Chisnall 6-3 Jamie Caven

James Wilson 3-6 Jelle Klaasen

Keegan Brown 4-6 Mark Webster

Steve Beaton 3-6 Robbie Green

*Champion: Anderson
*Runner-up: MvG

Cheers, RM

Holden Mcgroyne · Post by **Holden Mcgroyne** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:27 pm

Michael van Gerwen v Andy Hamilton 6-1
Vincent van der Voort v Andrew Gilding 6-2
Josh Payne v Mark Walsh 6-5
Cristo Reyes v Berry van Peer 6-2
Mensur Suljovic v Raymond van Barneveld 6-3
Adrian Lewis v Robert Thornton 4-6
Joe Cullen v Steve Brown 6-2
Ronny Huybrechts v Rowby-John Rodriguez 5-6
Gerwyn Price v Dimitri Van den Bergh 6-3
Christian Kist v Ricky Evans 6-4
Steve West v Jan Dekker 6-1
Justin Pipe v Andy Jenkins 4-6
Simon Whitlock v Matthew Edgar 6-1
Darren Webster v Jonny Clayton 6-4
Chris Dobey v Mick McGowan 6-2
Alan Norris v Michael Smith 6-4

*PICK THE PLAYERS AND DO THE SCORES: (eg. Brendan Dolan 4-6 Joe Murnan)

Benito van de Pas v Murnan 6-3
Kim Huybrechts v Gurney 4-6
Wright v Wade 6-3
Bunting v Anderson 4-6
Chisnall v Caven 6-3
Wilson v Klaasen 2-6
White v Jenkins 6-5
Beaton v Peterson 6-3

*Champion: Van Gerwen
*Runner-up: Wright

Just noticed there's a Dik van Dijk at 144 in the PDC rankings. Hope he races up the table

genehunt1973 · Post by **genehunt1973** » Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:10 pm

Michael van Gerwen v Andy Hamilton 6-1
Vincent van der Voort v Andrew Gilding 6-2
Josh Payne v Mark Walsh 6-5
Cristo Reyes v Berry van Peer 6-2
Mensur Suljovic v Raymond van Barneveld 6-4
Adrian Lewis v Robert Thornton 6-4
Joe Cullen v Steve Brown 6-2
Ronny Huybrechts v Rowby-John Rodriguez 5-6
Gerwyn Price v Dimitri Van den Bergh 6-3
Christian Kist v Ricky Evans 6-4
Steve West v Jan Dekker 6-2
Justin Pipe v Andy Jenkins 6-4
Simon Whitlock v Matthew Edgar 6-2
Darren Webster v Jonny Clayton 6-4
Chris Dobey v Mick McGowan 6-2
Alan Norris v Michael Smith 5-6

Benito van de Pas v Murnan 6-3
Kim Huybrechts v Gurney6-5
Wright v Wade 6-5
Bunting v Anderson 3-6
Chisnall v Caven 6-4
Wilson v Klaasen 2-6
White v Jenkins 6-5
Beaton v Peterson 6-3

*Champion: Van Gerwen
*Runner-up: Ando

carcinogen · Post by **carcinogen** » Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:40 pm

Michael van Gerwen v Andy Hamilton 6-2
Vincent van der Voort v Andrew Gilding 6-3
Josh Payne v Mark Walsh 6-4
Cristo Reyes v Berry van Peer 6-4
Mensur Suljovic v Raymond van Barneveld 3-6
Adrian Lewis v Robert Thornton 6-5
Joe Cullen v Steve Brown 6-4
Ronny Huybrechts v Rowby-John Rodriguez 6-5
Gerwyn Price v Dimitri Van den Bergh 6-5
Christian Kist v Ricky Evans 6-3
Steve West v Jan Dekker 6-3
Justin Pipe v Andy Jenkins 6-4
Simon Whitlock v Matthew Edgar 6-3
Darren Webster v Jonny Clayton 6-4
Chris Dobey v Mick McGowan 6-4
Alan Norris v Michael Smith 4-6

Benito van de Pas v Murnan 6-4
Kim Huybrechts v Gurney 6-5
Wright v Wade 6-4
Bunting v Anderson 4-6
Chisnall v Caven 6-2
Wilson v Klaasen 6-5
White v Jenkins 6-5
Beaton v Peterson 6-5

*Champ: Van Gerwen
*Runner-up: Wright

Rainbowmonkey · Post by **Rainbowmonkey** » Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:56 pm

Welcome welcome. Be entering this by tomorrow if you want a go. Comes on ITV4 at 12:45pm, play will start around 1.

Rainbowmonkey · Post by **Rainbowmonkey** » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:06 pm

delboy1983 wrote:Painter v Webster
Nicholson v King

Wow bus strike those years

the Painter title was a tournament that just cracked open. Painter himself didn't dodge the carnage - he survived multiple match darts in the semis against Scott Rand. Who?! It cracked open!

Nicholson beat Lewis and Taylor to win in 2010. He was a fabulous player in those days. A right gritty cunt. His semi-final win against Taylor was a thing of beauty. Peter Drury over-doing it on comms mind.

The first and surely last TV title for both. Wind forward a few years and they'll both be at the floor qualifier on Monday, scratching around for the final 2 spots at the World Championship.

Rainbowmonkey · Post by **Rainbowmonkey** » Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:10 pm

ahhh here is the end of that Taylor-Nicho semi in 2010. What a match it was, at the TINY Circus Tavern where they used to hold the Worlds.

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delboy1983 · Post by **delboy1983** » Thu Nov 24, 2016 8:46 pm

Michael van Gerwen v Andy Hamilton 6-1
Vincent van der Voort v Andrew Gilding 6-3
Josh Payne v Mark Walsh 6-3
Cristo Reyes v Berry van Peer 6-3
Mensur Suljovic v Raymond van Barneveld 4-6
Adrian Lewis v Robert Thornton 6-3
Joe Cullen v Steve Brown 6-2
Ronny Huybrechts v Rowby-John Rodriguez 4-6
Gerwyn Price v Dimitri Van den Bergh 6-3
Christian Kist v Ricky Evans 6-4
Steve West v Jan Dekker 6-4
Justin Pipe v Andy Jenkins 6-3
Simon Whitlock v Matthew Edgar 6-2
Darren Webster v Jonny Clayton 6-5
Chris Dobey v Mick McGowan 6-3
Alan Norris v Michael Smith 5-6

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Benito van de Pas v Joe Murnan 4-6

Kim Huybrechts v Daryl Gurney 6-3

Peter Wright v James Wade 6-4

Stephen Bunting v Gary Anderson 3-6

Dave Chisnall v Jamie Lewis 6-4

James Wilson v Jelle Klaasen 3-6

Ian White v Terry Jenkins 5-6

Steve Beaton v Robbie Green 5-6

WINNER -MICHAEL VAN GERWEN

RUNNER UP- PETER WRIGHT

The Ghost of Alex Higgins · Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:48 am

Michael van Gerwen v Andy Hamilton 6-2
Vincent van der Voort v Andrew Gilding 6-4
Josh Payne v Mark Walsh 3-6
Cristo Reyes v Berry van Peer 6-1
Mensur Suljovic v Raymond van Barneveld 4-6
Adrian Lewis v Robert Thornton 6-3
Joe Cullen v Steve Brown 6-0
Ronny Huybrechts v Rowby-John Rodriguez 6-2
Gerwyn Price v Dimitri Van den Bergh 4-6
Christian Kist v Ricky Evans 6-2
Steve West v Jan Dekker 5-6
Justin Pipe v Andy Jenkins 6-4
Simon Whitlock v Matthew Edgar 6-1
Darren Webster v Jonny Clayton 6-4
Chris Dobey v Mick McGowan 6-0
Alan Norris v Michael Smith 4-6

*PICK THE PLAYERS AND DO THE SCORES: (eg. Brendan Dolan 4-6 Joe Murnan)

Benito van de Pas/Brendan Dolan v Joe Murnan/Jermaine Wattimena

bvp murn 6-3

Kim Huybrechts/Mickey Mansell v Daryl Gurney/Ronnie Baxter

Kim bax 6-3

Peter Wright/Jason Wilson v James Wade/Mervyn King

Wright wide 4-6

Stephen Bunting/Ron Meulenkamp v Gary Anderson/John Henderson

Bunts gand 1-6

Dave Chisnall/Kevin Painter v Jamie Caven/Jamie Lewis

Chis cave 6-3

James Wilson/Vincent Kamphuis v Jelle Klaasen/Simon Stevenson

Wils klaas 4-6

Ian White/Keegan Brown v Mark Webster/Terry Jenkins

Keeg webs 4-6

Steve Beaton/Jeffrey de Graaf v Robbie Green/Devon Petersen

Adonis dev 6-5

*Champion:gando
*Runner-up:mvg

Post by **Carlos J** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:58 am

*DO THE SCORES:

Michael van Gerwen v Andy Hamilton 6-3
Vincent van der Voort v Andrew Gilding 6-3
Josh Payne v Mark Walsh 4-6
Cristo Reyes v Berry van Peer 6-3
Mensur Suljovic v Raymond van Barneveldn 6-4
Adrian Lewis v Robert Thornton 6-4
Joe Cullen v Steve Brown 6-3
Ronny Huybrechts v Rowby-John Rodriguez 6-3
Gerwyn Price v Dimitri Van den Bergh 6-3
Christian Kist v Ricky Evans 6-3
Steve West v Jan Dekker 4-6
Justin Pipe v Andy Jenkins 6-4
Simon Whitlock v Matthew Edgar 6-3
Darren Webster v Jonny Clayton 6-3
Chris Dobey v Mick McGowan 6-3
Alan Norris v Michael Smith 6-3

*PICK THE PLAYERS AND DO THE SCORES: (eg. Brendan Dolan 4-6 Joe Murnan)

BvdP 6 -3 Murman
Kim 6 - 3 Gurney
Wright 6-4 Wade
Bunting 4 - 6 Anderson
Chisnall 4 - 6 Caven
Wilson 2 - 6 Klaasen
White 4 - 6 Webster
Adonis 6 - 4 Green

Triple bonus

*Champion: MvG
*Runner-up: Wright

Rainbowmonkey · Post by **Rainbowmonkey** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:30 am

me:

Michael van Gerwen v Andy Hamilton 6-2
Vincent van der Voort v Andrew Gilding 5-6
Josh Payne v Mark Walsh 4-6
Cristo Reyes v Berry van Peer 6-3
Mensur Suljovic v Raymond van Barneveld 6-4
Adrian Lewis v Robert Thornton 6-3
Joe Cullen v Steve Brown 6-3
Ronny Huybrechts v Rowby-John Rodriguez 6-4
Gerwyn Price v Dimitri Van den Bergh 6-4
Christian Kist v Ricky Evans 6-3
Steve West v Jan Dekker 6-3
Justin Pipe v Andy Jenkins 6-4
Simon Whitlock v Matthew Edgar 6-3
Darren Webster v Jonny Clayton 6-5
Chris Dobey v Mick McGowan 6-4
Alan Norris v Michael Smith 6-4

Benito van de Pas v Joe Murnan 6-4
Kim Huybrechts v Daryl Gurney 6-5
Peter Wright v Mervyn King 6-2
Stephen Bunting v Gary Anderson 3-6
Dave Chisnall v Jamie Lewis 6-4
James Wilson v Jelle Klaasen 6-5
Ian White v Terry Jenkins 6-4
Steve Beaton v Robbie Green 4-6

*Champion: Michael van Gerwen
*Runner-up: Gary Anderson

Rainbowmonkey · Post by **Rainbowmonkey** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:13 pm

ITV4 from 12:45pm. Live scoring link is on page 1, dartsdata something.

Main Stage
Joe Cullen v Steve Brown
Ian White v Keegan Brown
Chris Dobey v Mick McGowan
Jelle Klaasen v Simon Stevenson
Simon Whitlock v Matthew Edgar
Cristo Reyes v Berry van Peer
Christian Kist v Ricky Evans
Dave Chisnall v Kevin Painter

Stage Two
James Wilson v Vincent Kamphuis
Joe Murnan v Jermaine Wattimena
Justin Pipe v Andy Jenkins
Darren Webster v Jonny Clayton
Josh Payne v Mark Walsh
Vincent van der Voort v Andrew Gilding
Jamie Caven v Jamie Lewis
Robbie Green v Devon Petersen

Rainbowmonkey · Post by **Rainbowmonkey** » Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:20 pm

Best check.

The Ghost of Alex Higgins · Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:22 pm

Looking at that it appears I copied Sub-o

I swear down pure times I would NIVVER do that, a cunts trick

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